SCOTUS upholds healthcare law- Page 2
SCOTUS upholds healthcare law
#25SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:47amI know you're right to anticipate trouble, Joe. But just give me a few more minutes of Happy...
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#26SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:47am
"Am I a communist because I think that was just wrong?"
No, doll, you're a human being with empathy and a conscience.
#27SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:49am^^Which doesn't preclude the possibility that she's a Commie...
#28SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:51amThanks Namo! Addison- I do have some Russian in my ancestry-lol!
#29SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:51amWhat must W, Dick Cheney, and all the Republicans who thought John Roberts was a "solid conservative" choice for SCOTUS be thinking right now?
#30SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:52am
Forgive the language, but Holy MutherF*CKing SH*T.
I'm frankly stunned. But, as my boss pointed out, Roberts is "a cynical son of a bitch" who knew that striking the law down would drive the Dems to the polls. I'm not EXACTLY sure I agree with that. I think it would have devastated the Dems.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#31SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:55amWhatever works, is what I say.
#32SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:57am
As far as Roberts was concerned, this was far more legacy than legality. He is very concerned about how his court will be remembered. Just a little surprised he couldn't pull Kennedy over to make it 6-3 rather than 5-4.
My hope is that there may now actually be some accurate information about the law my our media. The parts of the law poll VERY well when asked as questions like "Do you think insurers should be able to deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions", but when asked what they think of 'Obamacare', the polling plummets.
#33SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:59amConsidering that both the WH and political commentators point to the Massachusetts healthcare law as a template aka Romney's healthcare law, I really do not think this is good for the Republicans on a national level. If Obama is putting out the Bain Capital assault, imagine the possibilities with this decision.
#34SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:01amSo you think old Mittens will now start taking credit for his part in Obamacare?
#35SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:02am
But, as my boss pointed out, Roberts is "a cynical son of a bitch" who knew that striking the law down would drive the Dems to the polls. I'm not EXACTLY sure I agree with that. I think it would have devastated the Dems.
Roberts may be cynical, but I don't think your boss is right about what would have happened.
It can just as easily be argued that seeing this as a win will reinvigorate support for Obama.
I see his point but think I agree more with you. I guess we'll see in November.
#36SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:05amI'm ready--eager, even--to believe anything negative about any W. appointee. But it seems like it would take a peculiar combination of cynicism blended with an idealistic respect for the Voters to think that striking down "Obamacare" would motivate Democratic voters to vote.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#37SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:05am
Mitt has an omelet on his face to take care of first:
Last Night: “My guess is they’re not sleeping real well at the White House tonight,” he told a cheering crowd in Northern Virginia. “That’s the way it ought to be.”
He went on to say Obama had "Wasted" his term in office and passing "Obamacare" was a "Moral Failure."
To which I say "oh yeah?"
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#38SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:06am
"Just a little surprised he couldn't pull Kennedy over to make it 6-3 rather than 5-4."
There is the possibility that Roberts traded his vote so that he could write the majority opinion.
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#39SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:08amOverturning a law is not something the SCOTUS does lightly. (Citizens United to the contrary). And the government compels you to do all sorts of things farther "out there" than carry insurance. And if they had struck this down, all those things would be up for review. That is not the sort of Legacy Roberts wants.
#40SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:10am
"There is the possibility that Roberts traded his vote so that he could write the majority opinion."
Can you explain? I don't see your point. Roberts assigns the decisions.
#41SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:14amHe could have written majority opinion if he ruled NO too.
#42SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:15amFOX NEWS: The Negroes, 'Spainiks and Gays are Ruining Our America! Vote for The Guy in the Magic Underwear!
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#43SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:16amYeah that's a major fail there. Whichever way he ruled would have been the majority. Do you really think he wants to write an opinion so bad he'd change his ruling, anyway?
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#44SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:26am
"Can you explain? I don't see your point. Roberts assigns the decisions."
The majority opinion is written by the senior justice of the majority. If Kennedy had voted for and Roberts against, then Kennedy would have written the majority opinion.
For future cases, it's more important who writes the majority opinion because the wording in the MO will be used. Roberts could have voted in favor so that he would get to use the wording he wanted for this decision.
#45SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:29amNo source for it yet ... but the social network scene is abuzz saying someone just got fired for that CNN blunder. I'll update with a link if it's true (and there is one).
blocked: logan2, Diamonds3, Hamilton22
#46SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:32amFox News will probably promote the idiot who did the same thing.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#47SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:38am
Drunk Hulk's tweet about the CNN gaffe:
CNN IS AMAZING! THEY NO ONLY PROVIDE LATEST NEWS FROM AROUND WORLD! BUT LATEST NEWS FROM ALTERNATE EARTH TOO!
#48SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:44am
This is what one of my high school friends just put up on fb:
What's next? Will we be "taxed" for NOT buying vitamins? For NOT buying electric cars? For NOT sending our kids to government schools? ...So much for freedom.
#49SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent
Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:47am
"The majority opinion is written by the senior justice of the majority. If Kennedy had voted for and Roberts against, then Kennedy would have written the majority opinion."
I think you're mistaken. If that were true, Scalia would have written every decision for the usual 5-4 split in this court, and I don't think that's been the case.
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