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Shame on Kristin Chenoweth
#125god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 6:45pmg*dd*mn those reynolds folks and the horses they rode in on! this is not over, little miss i love america, but don't particularly care for the current resident of the white house or his policies! we have ways...
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...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#126god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 7:27pm
What is she gonna sing? Maybe Popular to Bush? 
WiCkEd4LyFfE
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#128god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 9:49pmI think saying 'Shame on Kristin Chenoweth' is completely uncalled for. As has been said many times on this board, people have different views. I believe that Ms. Chenoweth has made a very wise decision, and I am a democrat. Scold me and put me in my place if you feel you must but who would deny the chance that she is being given? Weather she likes the President or not, the fact that him and his wife enjoy her talents and asked her to sing at such a huge and highly publicized event is a great honor and she was wise to take advantage of it. Just my opinion.
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#129god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 9:51pmKirsten can do what she wants but i think thats sorta ironic. She's singing for someone whos against everything theater pretty much (homosexuals and challenging authority plays and stuff)
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#131god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 9:55pmLOL
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#132god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 10:05pmWhile I find this discussion intellectually stimulating, does anyone have a link from whence this info was driven from?
#133god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 10:06pm
she's like totally wrong...and stuff.
folks, stop, wake up and remember the cardinal rule of show biz:
any press is good press.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
BEKA531
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#134god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/13/05 at 10:17pmyou know, the line has to be drawn somewhere. i have lost a lot of my respect for her now...
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#135god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 1:39am
"She's singing for someone whos against everything theater pretty much (homosexuals and challenging authority plays and stuff)"
....so? The Bush's like HER. They like her TALENT. They asked her to PERFORM. She's not indebted to them for life or anything. She doesn't have to preach conservatism and agree wholeheartedly with anything regarding Bush. She's singing a song! Thats it!
#136god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 1:58am
No, OhSoWicked, I think you are wrong. Performing for the President is an inherently political act. The President doesn't write legislation, collect taxes or go into combat--he is a figure-head, a symbol and the head of a political party. (In this case, TRULY just a figure head).
The blond bobble head can (as has been stated here many times) choose to perform for the President--that is absolutely her right (God Bless America, etc.). But she either does so conscious of the symbolism of accepting his invitation (i.e. "I am singing for you because I support your policies) or blind to the symbolism, but make no mistake--she casts herself as a supporter of his administration and its policies. Not every last rule and regulation, but certainly the broad themes. And clearly, the oppression, de-humanization and out-right persecution of gay men and lesbians is a broad theme of this administration. Bush and Rove and Co. have pandered to their base, using gay issues in a variety of ways, to the detriment of the gay community.
Now, bobble head is a pretty, white girl from somewhere Red, and has every right to be a supporter of Bush & Co. (God bless America). It is un-realistic of people (I think) to feel that because she works in a field with, traditionally, a concentration of gay men she must refuse his invitation out of "solidarity" with her gay co-workers.
But BH (and others) should not be surprised at a strong reaction of hostility towards her from gay people. In our capitalist culture, shopping is a political act--you can be damned sure I am not buying her CDs as a direct result of her appearance at the Bush inaugural (i.e. her endorsement of the Bush agenda).
A presidential inaugural is a major event and possibly a career builder. But as I said recently on the Ashlee Simpson thread, we are sometimes given an opportunity to do the right thing, and if we miss that opportunity--for whatever reason--we must accept the judgements that follow.
I think the notion put forward previously on this thread of taking the opportunity of the "bully pulpit" of an audience with the President to make a strong statement is a good one--but misses the point of the symbolism. It is not Bush's acts as an individual (how does G.W. Bush "feel" about gays and lesbians?) that matters--it is the actions of his administration.
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#137god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 2:04am
bta - passionate rationality is a rare gift - thank you. And nice icon, by the way 
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#138god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 2:11am
Thank you for that. What sounds good in my head sounds better when you write it.
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#139god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 2:56am
Oh dear, oh dear--if I seem rational about Bush & Co., then I haven't made myself understood at all...
And speaking of Jocelyn W., doesn't Tiff's version of her face look like the masks that Bette and her dancers wear in "Oh, Industry" in "Beaches"?
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But if anybody could . . . " --SS
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#140god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/14/05 at 10:47pm
I just find it odd that since everyone seems to "know" so much about her political stance, why no one has brought up that she's performed for Hillary Clinton as well?
Could it be, like her religious views, she's one of those people that takes issues on an individual basis?
As for performing for the President of the United States, in the press release it says what she's performing and her publicist declined to comment whether or not she was Republican. Which means it's not a political function for her.
And for those of you who are anti-Bush, what are you doing about it??? Have you educated yourself on who's actually making the decisions you are bitching about? Because if you seriously think Bush is running this country... It's a system built on checks and balances and just because Hollywood told you to go out and not vote for Bush, what they forgot to tell you was who is still sitting in the other chairs proposing the legislation.
Bush can say he is anti- everything all he wants, but that's why we have a Congress and a Senate, to make sure that Bush doesn't amend our entire constitution to be what he or his special interest groups want this country to be.
As for Chenoweth performing. Good for her. Once again, a shrewd PR move to get her mug before millions of more people to promote a song that Diane Warren wrote. And a song that I think is appropriate, given the time we live in.
So for all you who don't want to buy her CD (like you would have anyway) and want to say you'll never see her in concert/stage/television again. Well, good for you. I hope you take the money you saved and donate it to a good cause.
#141god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 12:32am
Wow--Spooky woke up on the cranky side of the bed today.....
I did not know that the BBH had performed for our Lady--that's really fascinating. Arguably two of the most polarizing figures in politics in our era (W and Hil)--I have to say bi-partisan performing takes the edge off my indignation.
Well, we can only speak for ourselves; I'd like to believe that I wouldn't sing for fascist cabal, but then, I've not been put to that test.
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But if anybody could . . . " --SS
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#142god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:23am
What surprises me is that ANY of you are surprised by this from Chenoweth? What part of Born Again Christian didn't register as Republican to you people?
What doesn't surprise me is Rathnait's response. She's so Pre-Stonewall. Between her and Corine it's as if second wave feminism and gay and lesbian liberation never happened.
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#144god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:30amdoes that mean i should or shouldn't burn my wife's bra?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#145god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:32amNot while you're wearing it, Papa.
"They have never understood, and no reason that they should.
But if anybody could . . . " --SS
#146god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:37amhell, i was using it as a double barrel slingshot and was gonna start lobbing flaming grapefruit at the neighbors. but now i'm uncertain and hesitant.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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#147god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:38amI was JUST about to post a double barrel slingshot reference... man, Papa, get out of my head.
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#148god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:43ammmmm, medulla oblongata, yummmmmm!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#149god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 1:44ammmmm, medulla oblongata, yummmmmm!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#150god bless that little helium voiced blonde bobble head
Posted: 1/15/05 at 3:23am
"And I hardly think it's unfair for you to say that President Bush "hates" Gays, just because he doesn't support us.
I have good friends who don't support my lifestyle, but still love me as a person. And they too have a right to believe whatever the hell they want."
I'm sorry to have to say this, but this is self-hate rhetoric at its worst. I used to preach the same thing about myself to justify all the adversity I was experiencing over sexual orientation. "Well, they're only bashing me because it's a part of their religion, so I have to accept that..." "They won't allow me to talk about it to them because it's against their faith..."
Nonsense. The people who don't support your "lifestyle" (i.e. support YOU) aren't "good friends." And they certainly don't love you "as a person" if they disapprove of something as central to your identity as sexual orientation. Why are you fooling around with them when you could have more friends who would be supportive of you? You deserve better than that. I hope that one day you will come to realize that you need not be supportive of their views - because by letting you call them your friends while also disrespecting you by "not supporting [your] lifestyle," they certainly aren't respecting your views. You should be using your identity to promote acceptance, NOT prejudice - which is exactly what you're inadvertently doing. Tough truth, hun, but it is still the truth. If your friends are not learning to view "gay" as a legitimate identity from you, then who will teach them? And they do need to be taught. Their views are NOT acceptable - it's the same thing as racism and sexism, both of which have been sanctioned by various institutions (especially religion) in the past.
Moreover, it's completely fair of the original poster to say that Bush "hates" gays "just because he doesn't support us." The original poster doesn't have to use kind words when talking about anyone's prejudices.
I'm sending this to you in a PM as well.
Updated On: 1/15/05 at 03:23 AM
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