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#276

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

The WBC is a tiny sect whose every move is watched by the media, ever ready for "outrage". I say, blame the media for their supposed ubiquity.


Here's to a future where we look upon our current worshipful attitudes towards guns with the same distaste we now look upon something like blackface. It can't come soon enough.
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#277

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Great post, Jasonf. My mom agrees, who's been a teacher for 60 yrs.
"Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation" ~~ Edward R. Murrow
#280

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

They said all over social media there are people claiming to be both investigators as wee as the shooter. Next will be someone that has figured out a way to scam the mourners.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#281

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

The shooter's mother, and first victim, collected guns and was apparently stocking up in the event of an economic collapse of the United States. This is getting nutty.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/12/wow_waiting_for_the_apocalypse.php

And the aunt who told the local news this is equally enthusiastic about guns and confirming the 'survivalism' angle very nonchalantly.

But it annoys me that she fell on the most common line by people who defend lax gun laws: It's the person, not the weapon. Okay, then are you suggesting more funding for mental health facilities and having more mental health professionals around schools to catch potential warning signs at an early age? They really never further that point. It sounds like the kid was not really raised in a home that would have him seek mental assistance if he was really 'a ticking time-bomb'.
#282

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

That said, it stuns me how the various divisions in this country are so adamant about realizing their own legal rights while at the same time trying to restrict the rights of others. This is not characteristic of just one side, but of ALL sides. The lack of the EFFORT, more or less ability, to find common ground and compromise is what's destroying US society.

you keep saying this yawper, or some variation of it. the fact that the amount of legislation since the giffords, holmes, and cho incidents (and dozens others, soon to add the newtown slaughter) amounts to zero, that neither presidential candidate mentions it as they're so frightened of reprisal, shows that the gun owners are getting it all their own way. how is that compromise?

the real question is, when will the gun owners give some ground?
#283

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Well Senator Gillibrand is a gun owner and tweeted that she supports the Assault Weapons ban that Sen. Feinstein has brought up on the Sunday Morning News Shows.

There are gun owners who do think there are certain guns that have no reason to be on the market. I know a few who have not gone to gun shows because there are not only things showcased that they would never buy, but there is this survivalist ideology that has taken over the gun shows that frankly freaked them out.
#284

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Exactly. Most gun owners aren't even members of the NRA.

I say, blame the media for their [WBC] supposed ubiquity.

The media thrives on conflict. The pundits have too much time to fill to not stir the ****. They amount to little more than high profile lobbyists.



#285

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

"Use the brain you have instead of keeping it as a receptacle of all the crap Fox shovels in there."
That came from a so called "teacher." Obviously not a very good one.

That is exactly why I didn't respect any of my high school teachers. Because they spouted crap like that. I don't care what your political views are, liberal or conservative, don't bring them into the classroom if you're a respectable teacher.
#286

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Hey Abby...take it to the thread dedicated to the debate.
Meanwhile, I am trying to start up a charity event in my town for them. A lot of people are interested. Can't believe how close to Christmas this happened. Those poor families Shooting at Connecticut elementary school
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#287

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

hey fingerlakes, did you not see the people right before me debating it where I hadn't even posted in a quite a while? Why do you not tell them to go to the thread dedicated to the debate? Or has your teacher not taught you how to read yet?
#289

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

"I don't care what your political views are, liberal or conservative, don't bring them into the classroom if you're a respectable teacher."

The one thing I agree with Abby on. As a teacher, you DO NOT spout your political views in the classroom. I don't care how adamant you are.

Jasonf is lucky some parent didn't hear about this.


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#290

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Actually, I don't think there is anything wrong with stating your opinion: as long it is stated AS your opinion and you encourage them to make their own decisions based on beliefs and facts.


And yes, AbbyNormal, I'm sure you were a joy as a student. You didn't respect ANY of your teachers because ALL of them spouted that kind of thing. They ALL never did any such thing.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#291

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Actually, I don't think there is anything wrong with stating your opinion: as long it is stated AS your opinion and you encourage them to make their own decisions based on beliefs and facts."

You will not be backed by the administration should a case be made.

In higher institutions you may request a refund if the instructor brings their political views into the classroom."
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#292

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

There's a reason why teachers are getting pay cuts, because of people like that poster who claims he's a teacher. People are getting fed up with it. I'm not saying all teachers are bad, but 99% of the ones in my high school could not shut up about politics. Global warming, saying Bush brought over Mexicans to work, etc. One of my teachers even wore a Kerry pin during the election season! It's unacceptable.
#293

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

'There's a reason why teachers are getting pay cuts, because of people like that poster who claims he's a teacher.'

There's not a shred of truth to that ridiculous statement.

" I'm not saying all teachers are bad, but 99% of the ones in my high school could not shut up about politics."

I doubt if one other person on this board believes that.
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#294

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Why is that so hard to believe? I went to a school with a 30% dropout rate. I made it through with a 3.8-3.9 GPA doing about 10 minutes of homework a week taking AP classes. I didn't exactly go to the best school and most of the teachers were incapable to teaching a decent class. I was lucky I learned good study skills in middle school otherwise I would have been completely unprepared for college.
#295

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

If you're referring to your first statement being believable - no. if there are teachers receiving pay cuts (I know it isn't a universal situation), it is definitely not because some teachers spouted their political views. My parrot knows that.

If it's your second statement, you want us to believe that 99% (almost every single one) of your teachers go on and on about their political views in the class. Unless things have changed drastically since my 25 year tenure in the classroom, that's just not believable.
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#296

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Jane, it's Abby's world. Try not to make sense of it.
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#297

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

can we all stop replying to abbynotnormal?
"Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation" ~~ Edward R. Murrow
#298

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

Snafu, I was just about to post to him/her, that I can't have a discussion with her because she exaggerates and makes up her own facts. She has no credibility.
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#299

Shooting at Connecticut elementary school

I'm sorry that you can't believe that almost every single one of my high school teachers shared their political views on a regular basis then that's your problem, I'm telling the truth, maybe that's not the case where you are but where I am it is.

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