I think "Mr. Fox" has a shot at a Best Pic nomination, as well.
It would be interesting if TWO animated movies grabbed spots in the top ten.
I think it's a good idea and there will be one winner anyway, just more to choose from.
It's not the problem of there being one winner, it's the fact that now five more pictures become "Best Picture nominees" which I think really cheapens the title in the sense that now it's a lot easier to become part of what used to be a select group of films. I wouldn't mind if in the past 10 years or so there had been 5-6 films that everyone felt should have gotten a nomination along with the regular five Best Pic nominees, but really, when you think about last year or the year before or the year before that, what 10 movies would have gotten nominated? And would all those movies have deserved to be Best Picture nominees? I think it hurts the quality of the title as well as the legacy of the awards.
I think you should look at the Best Director nominees, the ones who match the Best Picture nominees are probably the top 5. It's also interesting that there's 10 Best Pic nominees but only 5 nominees in the Director category, so that immediately leaves five directors out of the running and it creates a weird mismatch. It just all seems very flawed and a desperate attempt at ratings...which I highly doubt adding five nominees to the Best Pic category will do much for ratings in the first place.
THE WHITE RIBBON
STAR TREK
THE MESSENGER
PUBLIC ENEMIES
THE FANTASTIC MR. FOX
THE HURT LOCKER
SUMMER HOURS
A SERIOUS MAN
ANVIL! THE STORY OF ANVIL!
TWO LOVERS
It's gonna happen, folks. Mark my words. The Academy is totally going to open their imaginations with this new 10-nominees thing.
I would so love you to be right borstal. And I think your list is aces except for Two Lovers and Public Enemies.
The issue is will the academy nominate docs and foreign films for the big prize or will they keep them in their respective fields.
My feeling is that it will take an extraordinary film to break that barrier and open the Best Pic category up before it becomes normal and/or accepted. As great as Anvil (doc) and White Ribbon, Summer Hours (foreign) are, they are not that picture.
"The issue is will the academy nominate docs and foreign films for the big prize or will they keep them in their respective fields."
taz, they've sometimes nominated certain foreign films in Best Picture and Best Foreign Language Film. I can think of two off the top of my head that have done that -- LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL and CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON. I surmise that with more slots open, it would be easier for more foreign films to get the nod.
"Z" was another movie nominated in both categories in 1969.
Brilliant film, by the way.
I just got my Entertainment Weekly and (besides the awesome list of Stephen King's Top 10 Movies of the Year), they have their list of what the nominees will/should be.
It includes:
Avatar
An Education
The Hurt Locker
Inglorious Basterds
Invictus
The Messenger
Precious
A Serious Man
Up
Up In The Air
All in all I think it's a pretty good list and I can't see it being drastically different from this. I have to start going to the movies more often, as I've only seen a handful of those mentioned.
Updated On: 1/4/10 at 05:43 PM
Yeah--that's a good list. The only other possibilities could be
Julie & Julia
The Blind Side (its box office numbers actually make it a big contender)
500 Days of Summer
Star Trek (but not likely given Avatar)
District 9 (same as ST)
I'd love to see District 9 get in there. And, I have lots of films to see as I have only seen 4 of Karger's list and 3 of the above.
I've seen four of Karger's list (just saw Up in the Air last night and it was TERRIFIC) but it seems solid from what I've been reading about the race.
I have to say, I was behind Inglorious Basterds up till last night - now, I think I'm rooting for Up In the Air.
I think it's a given that AVATAR will get a Best Pic nom (possibly even win), especially since it just crossed the $1 billion mark at the worldwide box office this weekend. I'm having TITANIC flashbacks! Incidentally, the 1998 Oscars were the most watched telecast of the past 20 years (57.25 million), and I don't think it's a coincidence that TITANIC just happened to be the big winner that night. Though I'm not sure if the Academy wants to give Cameron an "I'm the king of the universe!" moment.
Titanic was a better movie than Avatar, which was visually stunning but had a terrible story.
Only one "fantasy" movie has won Best Picture in the history of the Academy Awards: Lord of the Rings.
I think Avatar will receive a slew of nominations, including Best Pic, but it will only win in the technical categories.
Here are my unlikely hopefuls (in no order, based on what I have seen only):
AVATAR
(500) DAYS OF SUMMER
UP IN THE AIR
INGLORIOUS BASTERDS
PRECIOUS
UP
STAR TREK
THE HANGOVER
FANTASTIC MR FOX
IT'S COMPLICATED
Remember, based on only what I have seen :)
Invictus might get a nom - but if it wins I'd be VERY surprised. Read the thread I created as to why...
There's another "issue" or two here besides forcing 10 nominations in a category that might not have 10 worthy candidates.
1. When you force more entries - you dilute the very principle of the award. More often than not - now you'll have truly great movies alongside movies that were "eh" - but both will be "Academy Award Nominees." While 5 might exclude some truly great films one year or another, at least judges would get to choose from that tough 5. But imagine a year where you have some wonderful films and then something like "glitter" sneaks in. Bad news all around there...
2. As mentioned above - it's not just that they become eligible - but that they can then use the phrase "Academy Award nominated for best picture" in marketing which dilutes the phrase reserved for (usually) better works.
Imagine if the Tonys did this. What if they said 10 musicals from each season had to be eligible. Every musical that opened up (just about) would be able to call themselves tony nominated. blah
Just saw Away We Go last night. David Eggers deserves an Original Screenplay nomination.
Great movie btw. Maya Rudolph and Jon Krasinski were wonderful.
Maggie Gyllenhall and Allsion Janney both are hilarious.
Craig you make some good points, however I respectfully disagree that increasing the number of nominees from 5 to 10 will dilute the prestige of being an Academy Award nominated film.
I think it's a good move. In fact the Academy used to nominate as many as 11 films for Best Picture in the 30's and 40's, so it's nothing new.
I agree that a move like that wouldn't work for the Tonys, since the number of new musicals that open each season rarely exceeds 20. In that case yes, increasing the number of Best Musical slots would absolutely dilute the prestige of being nominated. But in the case of the Oscars where the Academy has literally hundreds of films that can be nominated, I don't think increasing the number of BP nominees from five to 10 decreases the value of the award.
Just my two cents.
And something like Glitter would never sneak in. I think the ten films nominated this year will be worthy of their bragging rights. Will any of us agree on which ten it should be or that all ten are good films? Unlikely. But those debates happen with 5 every year.
I think they should have 10 dramas, 10 comedies, 10 animated, 10 foreign, 10 docs, and 10 miscellaneous.
In 50 years' time we'll have categories like:
Outstanding Lead Performance by a Caucasian Female Actor in a Motion Picture Drama Based on a Novel or Other Material Previously Produced Or Published
Mark my words!
Also, they nominate 10 films every year already. For Best Screenplay. It's not that big of a stretch.
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