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#201

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

"For instance, I know tons of gays his age who don't think we need marriage equality. They're young and aren't thinking about marriage...maybe thinking they'll never want to get married cause playing around in the bar scene is so fun and what it's all about and why would any gay want to get married? They think life will be as it is forever and they'll always be running around the bars having fun...and some of them may."

I just saw this attitude with an actor in one of my recent shows. He couldn't understand why one of his friends who was the same age as him (23) was talking about getting engaged with the guy that he had only been dating nine months. And of course this is an engagement, not saying "we're having our ceremony tomorrow after only dating nine months." This actor said he thinks too many of "the gays" (which he is one of, and is a term I loathe) are just viewing marriage as the next trendy thing, and nobody should be getting married that young, you aren't ready, blah, blah, blah.

I will tell you from my personal experience, I met the man who would become my fiancé right before I turned 24. By the time we had been dating six months I knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. Sadly that did not happen and he is no longer with us due to a drunk driver, which probably made this actor's rant about nobody being ready to be married at that age even more infuriating. To apply your own mentality and life experience (or lack thereof) to everybody around you is just as small minded as those he thought were keeping him down. I told him that if I could get even one more day back with my fiancee where we could be officially engaged here in NY knowing that we could have a real marriage that would at least be recognized in this state I would do anything for that opportunity.

Maybe his friend was making a mistake, but that's part of the fight for equality. We should be able to make the same mistakes that our straight friends and family get to make.

F**K the Uncle Toms in our own community (the author of that article included). Dan Cathy didn't just say he and his company support the view of "traditional" marriage. They put their money where their mouth is! He didn't just express a belief, anybody can say whatever they want, I don't care. But as soon as he donated money to actively deny other people the same rights that he has he lost any support he may have ever had.
#202

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Just so you golks know, I contactd Rob about the chick-fil-a ads on BWW. His response:

Original Message from Rob:
re: Ads for chik-fil-a on BWW

Thanks for the heads up, I haven't seen them here... We use a couple of ad networks including Google Adsense where you don't get advance approval of the ads that show up on the site. We do however have the ability to block domains from advertising once they start, so I've just added chick-fil-a.com to the block list which should kill them all shortly. Eugh! R



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#204

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

"Do the young people you're speaking of actually think gays don't need marriage equality? Or is it just that they're apathetic about it happening, or disinterested?"

It's a mixture of both. Some are just politically apathetic and don't even vote. They seem to have the attitude that politics are so messed up and removed from them that participation is pointless. They just accept things the way they are and let all their focus be on school and social life. They don't feel the lack of rights. So they don't feel the pull to fight for them.

Then there's the element that says since we aren't straight, and we aren't tied to straight rules and restraints like marriage, why should we want to place those rules on ourselves. Let's just be free and do what we want, relationship-wise.

Of course, neither of these ways of thinking are by any means limited to young people. But I do find that they are more prevalent among them.
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#205

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!


"Then there's the element that says since we aren't straight, and we aren't tied to straight rules and restraints like marriage, why should we want to place those rules on ourselves. Let's just be free and do what we want, relationship-wise."

That would be awesome if we lived in a system where that worked, but darn those federal marriage benefits. Someday they'll wake up ahd smell the paradigm. That one is definitely a question of maturity. I don't care how old you are.

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#206

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Yup. That's our target. Kids! (These people need to make up something more creative)

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!


'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-
#207

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

The only gay men I've known who do not support marriage equality have all been older than me, ranging from their late-40s to early-60s. The most common response I've gotten is that gays have responsibility not to conform to the conventions of heterosexual relationships and marriage. Like we have a duty to only subscribe to unconventional relationships, chiefly polyamory and open relationships. I've been criticized and ridiculed for my desire to have one partner and subscribing to heterosexual norms.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#208

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Most of the gay and lesbian people I know in that age-group are in fact some of the most pro-marriage equality and frankly the most heteronormative people I know. The only radical, non-conforming gay men I knew in college were the professors.
#210

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

I wonder how many of those students really know what marriage means. That it's more than just a fancy wedding. That there are actual rights attached to being married. I keep using Sally Ride as an example. If she were straight her husband would receive survivor benefits. But since she was with a woman there are no benefits.

"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#212

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Sounds like someone is a little defensive. Of course, she has to MAKE UP HER OWN FACTS because what she claims is simply NOT TRUE!

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Forgive me for posting a link to such a hateful dishonest website but these monsters really need to be confronted head on.When you lie, people who know you are lying HAVE TO COUNTER the liars.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/02/No-Chickfila-Did-Not-Support-Legislation-To-Kill-The-Gays#comments
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-
#213

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

People should take a look at this. Important to know but very depressing.



It's striking how closely that map matches up with the current red/blue state predictions at fivethirtyeight.com - identical for 45 out of 50 states.
#218

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

I don't condone it either. They are already playing the victim card with this First Amendment Myth about them not being allowed to express themselves.A man was fired for telling off a Chick Fil A co-worker as well. SO anyone who makes this Hate Group look like the victim scores no points with me.
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-
#219

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Instead of the "kiss-in", I would have rather the opponents of Chick-Fil-A support another gay-friendly chain for the day and instead of stuffing their faces, donated the food to homeless shelters. Or better yet, do the event at a homeless shelter and provide service to the less fortunate. That would make a better contrast of what a true Christian is compared to the photos of bigots lining up for their chikin.

Then again, the bigots would just say that liberals are encouraging people to be homeless and go on welfare. So christian of them!
#223

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

I was actually sort of disappointed in Jon Stewart's coverage of this. He completely neglected to mention that Chick-Fil-A donates so much money to anti-gay groups and causes. Again, it was framed as a free speech issue, when it goes beyond that.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#224

The Bigots On Facebook Are ALL Excited For Chikin Tomorrow!

Yeah, the other day when he talked about it with Wyatt and Jessica it made me stabby, because it was all about Free Speech and not a single word about the money was was mentioned. I get that I'm pretty much repeating what Kad said, but ugh, it pissed me off, so I'm reliever to know someone else felt the same way.

But that's Jon Stewart and The Daily Show. I love them, but they sometimes suffer from Balance Derangement Syndrome.

I just don't like the (almost smug) notion that "It's gonna happen. It's happening. The haters are on the wrong side of history." As someone who now lives in a state with an amendment specifically devoted to discriminating against me, I guess it's hard for me to see the forest for the trees at times, esepcially when - of the 31 states with amendments, 17 make same-sex marriage AND civil unions unconstitutional, and 2 ban same-sex marriage, civil unions, and domestic partnership agreements or similar - it's clearly not about protecting marriage, but just making sure that gay people are continually discriminated against.

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