The Dark Knight
#125Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/24/08 at 1:42pm
"And Batman took his shirt off twice. :3"
Ja, that was nice.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#126Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 12:14am
With an estimated 2nd weekend opening of $23,150,000 (which puts it SQUARELY in the #1 position!), this can be considered nothing less than a phenomenon.
I personally found it completely lacking - the only time I was awake was when Heath was onscreen, and he wasn't even all THAT! - but there's no denying the impact it's having.
I wonder what that says about . . . well, a lot of things.
#127Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 12:27am
Barack is my Dark Knight...
nuff' said.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#128Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 12:31am
Barock - he isn't all that 'dark'.
THAT'S 'nuff said'.
#129Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 2:42pmWeekend estimates are around 75 million, which puts it a few hundred thousand behind Iron Man. It looks like The Dark Knight might be able to crack 400 million.
#130Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 2:46pm
Oh, it'll crack $400 million easily within the next few days.
$75 million for a second weekend is absolutely incredible.
Heck, $75 million is more than most films could ever hope to make in their first weekend. Or even their entire runs.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
LePetiteFromage
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
#133Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 7:48pm
Poor 'Hellboy 2' my ass. It looks simply cracking! Just because something won't make as much money as something else doesn't mean it isn't going to do okay.
Why oh way can I not find an "I believe in Harvey Dent" badge on eBay? Well, there are a few, but they don't match the one on the poster and they won't ship to the UK. Booo!
LePetiteFromage
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
#135Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 8:29pmHellboy 2 did have a production budget about 100 million bucks less than The Dark Knight, so that film is only about 20 million away from recouping the production budget with just the domestic take. It should turn a modest profit with the international box office.
#136Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/27/08 at 11:35pm
So I saw this last night and I honestly thought it was one of the most boring, slowest, most tedious superhero movie ever. It had a fair amount of intense moments, all provided by Heath Ledger, but overall I was fairly disappointed to say the least.
I thought it was incredibly repetitive (Joker does something bad, Batman goes after him, Joker gets away, then Joker does something bad again...etc, etc, etc for THREE HOURS!!!). The female lead is incredibly underwritten and as with most superhero films, a simple tool for the men to prize or fight about. Christian Bale earns the prize for most uninteresting hero... boring! Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine are expectedly great if inconsequential. Aaron Eckhardt does a wonderful job, even when he is stuck with a trite self-righteous storyline. Gary Oldman is fantastic. The movie belongs to Ledger who makes the most of the role, and is incredibly creepy and scary. I wish the movie had been about him really.
I must agree with Rosscoe that the film suffers from the Jonathan Larson syndrome.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#137Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 2:29am
Ray - I'm with you and Roscoe on this one.
But it seems we are in the EXTREME minority!
Oh, well - been there before, and will probably be there again
#138Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 3:27am
Ray and DG, Welcome to the Dark Side!
:)
Parks
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/5/04
#139Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 5:49am
FINALLY saw this movie tonight!
It started off pretty slow... and I wasn't really following it--but it picked up about 20 er 30 mintues into it and I absolutely loved it. Well... not loved it, but it was an incredible film. I'll have to try to see it again at IMAX! :) Was not disappointed.
I don't understand how a few of you say it was boring/hard to stay awake... were you just tired? I mean--it's a pretty thrilling movie, I think. All the loud noises made me jump and the suspense of the movie had me constantly sitting on the edge of my seat with my hands close to my face.
#140Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 5:56am
I'm seeing it again in two hours. :3 The structure is interesting; somehow it feels more like watching a high-budget miniseries in a single sitting than like watching a movie (and I already said that, sorry; ain't gonna delete it though
). Batman himself is proper boring this time round, but Comissioner Awesome and Harvey totally make up for that. And I did like Ledger's Joker a lot, because of what he did with the role, not because he's dead. :P
Updated On: 7/28/08 at 05:56 AM
#141Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 8:35amI'm a member of the club, DG, Ray and Roscoe ... BORING! I was ready for it all to end after the first half hour.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#142Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 8:59am
Parks, there is no denying that the movie was LOUD, and had lots of ACTION. The main problem with the movie was that it insisted on pretending that there is anything at all interesting in that Batman/Bruce Wayne guy, at least as embodied by the Block Of Wood Formerly Known As Christian Bale.
When the Joker was onscreen, the movie was terrific, fast and funny and scary/shocking. Unfortunately, there were just way too many other people, only very few of whom had very much interesting to say.
On the other hand, I have been considering seeing it again, just to see if I missed something the first time but mainly to get another hit off of Ledger's performance.
LePetiteFromage
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
Parks
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/5/04
#144Halloween '08: The Year of the Joker
Posted: 7/28/08 at 2:02pm
Oh, ok--good. Atleast you liked Heath. I thought everybody was fine in the film. I didn't think Christian Bale was bad... just not amazing.
I didn't really like Batman using a different voice from Bruce Wayne. Is that in all of the Batman films? I was about ready to walk out of the theater at the beginning of the movie when he was talking like that.
#145The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:09pm
I didn't open this thread earlier, because I hadn't seen the movie yet. I was worried about "spoilers."
If only you'd stopped me from going today!!!
I was bored out of my mind. The only actors doing anything interesting on screen were Heath Ledger, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Morgan Freeman.
Everyone else was laughably "uber-serious." OPERATICALLY serious!
As hysterically giddy and manic as some of the (mostly early) scenes in Mamma Mia were, this film is no less guilty of the same crime, but in the opposite direction.
It has NO fun, no sense of humor... it practically has the opposite of both. It's not clever or entertaining. It's not good story-telling, good acting or even a good action movie.
It's all one-note. (Again, except for the actors mentioned above). A constant drone of glares, stares, explosions, a convoluted confused plot (if you can even call it that) that goes nowhere. The last moments of the film look like its own fast-cut trailer, even including the cliche "stinger" dropping to black at the end.
Christian Bale's Batman voice literally made me laugh out loud at one point. I was going to hand him a Kleenex to cough into, he had so many phony Bat-loogies stuck in there. What a horrible idea to have him talk like that!
I hope Heath gets a supporting Oscar nomination. He spun straw into gold with this one, and he was the only reason I stayed in the theatre. I seriously almost walked out on it.
So, give me TCM. Give me the great stories, with characters I care about. Even give me the dumb stories, and the contrived plots that at least are entertaining. I don't care if it's a musical or a western either.
This felt more like a painful trip to the dentist. And I'm really saddened to think that this is what passes for "good" and "successful" these days, judging from the critics' consensus and the box office turnout. Sad, sad, sad.
To say that this is the best super hero movie ever is a joke befitting the Joker. It's not even in the top ten! The first Christopher Reeve Superman movie is miles ahead of this one on all counts.
Bleeecchhhh! I really need to shake this off. I should have asked for my money back. They failed to entertain me.
Quick, somebody give me a Carmen Miranda movie. Even a bad one. At least I'll find SOMETHING in there to like.
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Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#146The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:38pmWell, it is certainly no MAMMA MIA....
#147The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:54pm
No... it's not remotely that good.
(and I wasn't one of those who loved Mamma Mia, either)
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Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#148The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:56pm
I'd say the two films are different sides of the same coin. One is so desperate to prove that it is SERIOUS, and the other is desperate to be TRIVIAL. They each over-reach, neither is good enough to deliver on what it wants to do.
At least DARK KNIGHT has Heath Ledger making a pencil disappear, which trumps anything in MM, for me at least.
And, of course, TCM never shows any bad movies. Ever.
#149The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:57pm
Mamma Mia is better than TDK? By any stretch of any imagination?
Today is bizarro opposite day!
#150The Dull Knight, or Why best12bars Is Sticking To TCM
Posted: 7/30/08 at 4:58pm
LOL
Their BAD movies (and there are some stinkers) are better than today's "GOOD" ones.
At least to me.
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