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The Fourth Reich

Roscoe
#1The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:02pm

Some folks have expressed disapproval of my use of the term "Fourth Reich" to describe the current GOP. A good friend was particularly upset about it, citing a lot of historical data and all.

I certainly won't be using the term around him any more, but I'd like the throw the question open. What alternate terms for these bottom-feeding vermin can I use? Is it okay if I just call them the Forces of Darkness? The Bad Guys? Prick Ear'd Curs of Iceland? Or is there anything really more derogatory than just calling them Republicans?



"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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SonofRobbieJ
#2The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:04pm

I vote for sci-fi geek simplicity:

The Empire.

Roscoe
#2The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:08pm

Empire -- not bad, but a bit too general, I think. There's something noble and imposing about The Empire.

Evil Empire, maybe? But that's Reagan's term for the Soviets, so that's no good.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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Reginald Tresilian
#3The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:11pm

Goths?

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SonofMammaMiaSam
#4The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:20pm

Crazy-ass loons works for me.

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Calvin
#5The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 1:25pm

The Know-Nothings works. Or the No-Everythings.

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SonofRobbieJ
#6The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:25pm

I would vote F*CKtards if it weren't so insulting to the developmentally disabled.

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madbrian
#7The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:29pm

Submitted for your consideration: The Luddites.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

Wildcard
#8The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:36pm

Who cares if they are offended. That is what they are… the Fourth Reich. Their extremism is no different from Al Qaeda. I haven't heard Al Qaeda complaining that they are being called terrorists

Roscoe
#9The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:42pm

The folks who were offended weren't Republicans, interestingly. The offended folks take the position that you lose when you bring up the Nazis in a disagreement, and that using the term Fourth Reich does a disservice to the specific historical issue of the Nazis and the Jews who died in the Holocaust.

I don't buy it, myself. The comparison seems apt enough to me, and I'm reminded of the old statement about fascism coming to America not under the sign of the swastika but wrapped in the Old Glory and brandishing the Bible.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/
Updated On: 11/3/10 at 02:42 PM

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Annas_Priest
#10The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:42pm

Just stop. I can't stand extremist on either sides. You are just as bad as they are. What you are doing is not helping or changing anyone's mind.

Roscoe
#11The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:44pm

"I can't stand extremist on either sides."

A rather extreme position in itself.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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JohnBoy2
#12The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:50pm

I would vote F*CKtards if it weren't so insulting to the developmentally disabled.

You refer to the developmentally challenged as "****tards"? How progressive and honorable of you.

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SonofRobbieJ
#13The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 2:58pm

Well...the 'tard' is a scaled-down version of the derisive 'retard', which many people take exception to.

The insult actually comes when comparing the developmentally disabled with Republicans. I mean, no developmentally disabled person should have to live with THAT insult.

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SonofMammaMiaSam
#14The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 3:10pm

Except George W. Bush.

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jrb_actor
#15The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 5:58pm

In honor of popcultureboy, I vote for asshats.


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Mr Roxy
#16The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 6:52pm

In a previous post, someone said the democrats were just as bad as the republicans because of things Obama did not do in his first term. Does that make him one of the above? Just curious.

So much for honest open debate. If you do not agree with people you are called every name in the book. I know I will be given that honor after this post. Does not exactly fit the model of tolerance now does it?

I am old enough to remember how things were done in the 60's. A little more respect of everyone elses point of view. It makes it easier to reach a compromise.Unfortunately, not many here are open to compromise of any kind. Ghandi would not be to happy nor would Dr King.If you hurl names like these around like bombs there is no reason for the other side to listen to your position

Say what you want as I have said my piece here & will not be revisiting this thread. I do not gloat about last night. Hopefully cooler head will prevail & unlike this board both sides will work together for the common good.


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Roscoe
#17The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 7:01pm

I suppose the Republicans are, in fact, working for the common good, if the common good is defined as being the richest 1% of the population.

And it is interesting to have gotten a plea for dialogue from someone who posts and runs.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

bethnor
#18The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 7:48pm

Ghandi would not be to happy nor would Dr King.

ghandi or dr. king would not ask any of the posters in this thread to live as second class citizens. if you are as fair minded as you claim, neither should you.

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madbrian
#19The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/3/10 at 10:21pm

I have complete respect for people with different opinions from mine, even those in the extreme. However, I have no respect for those who put politics ahead of the common good, and the GOP leadership has been open and honest about their lack of interest in working with the Dems. Say what you want about Obama, but I don't question his integrity or his intentions. I can't say the same the leaders of the GOP.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Reginald Tresilian
#20The Fourth Reich
Posted: 11/4/10 at 9:55am

And I'm sorry, but every point of view does not deserve equal respect.

If someone feels--and says--that I am a second-class citizen, that I deserve fewer rights than they do, I am not obligated to respect that point of view.

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papalovesmambo
#21achtung! achtung!
Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:02am

i'm sticking with "your friends and neighbors."

and reg, just what do you think you are doing at the front of the bus? again?? don't make me get mah fiyah hose, boy.


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Reginald Tresilian
#22achtung! achtung!
Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:05am

What if I say "pretty please"?

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papalovesmambo
#23achtung! achtung!
Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:07am

to paraphrase the bear, "you're not really in this for the bus riding, are ya?"


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#24achtung! achtung!
Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:13am


Updated On: 11/4/10 at 10:13 AM


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