The Fourth Reich- Page 2

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:15am

phyllis, did reg render you speechless? again?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:18am

Hey Papa I was hoping you'd check in- what's your 2012 prognosis now? Huckabee/Bachmann?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:20am

No, I had something typed and then I decided my heart wasn't in it.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:23am

nope, it's gonna be papalovesmambo and a the rents too damn high candidate to be named later.

vee vill krush zee opposition like ants unt return glory to zee fatherland!

[Q]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:25am

"your friends and neighbors"

In our neck of the woods, they'd kick us out of the neighborhood in a heartbeat, if they could. And they'd sooner cut off a limb than call us friends.

I don't refer to 'them' as anything but Republicans - but I don't really use the classification 'them', so the point is moot.

I am interested in how the supposed splintering conservative groups managed to end up voting along the same lines anyway.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:31am

the splinters hurt so doggone bad they all got pulled at once and led to everyone reaching forward for the lever at once.

plus the more crazy-pants candidates lost (as far as i know) save for rand paul. which points to the fact that it was the independents who really won this cycle for the gop.

actually joe, i think the gop wil probably go with romney and maybe jindal or pawlenty.

the tea party with yell and stomp their feet, but i doubt the gop's ready to commit total party suicide by letting sarah or one of her cronies drive the party off the cliff upon which it so precariously teeters.

[madbrian]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:37am

I think the GOP nom is Romney's to lose, but I don't think Jindal or T-Paw will be the VP candidate. If I had to guess, I'd guess John Thune.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 10:43am

I can't see Romney getting the Tea Party excited - which leaves room for a 3rd party candidate (in my opinion only).

Romney's Mass HC makes it difficult for him to be embraced by those who have railed against an almost identical federal plan.

I am not as worried about 2012 as others. I have a feeling that Clinton may replace Biden on the ticket, which would energize the Dems tremendously.

And, FWIW, I just call them Planters - because they have a lot of mixed nuts in that party.



Updated On: 11/4/10 at 10:43 AM

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 11:11am

Actually papa, the nuttiest tea bagger of them all WON- and in MY congressional district! He didn't get much press and ZERO support from the national GOP but he's a nutjob. No experience, multiple arrests for minor infractions, death threats against the League of Women Voters debate moderator because she didn't look enthusiastic enough when she said the pledge of allegiance. It'll be a fun two years.

Oh, and his name isn't really Joe Walsh Updated On: 11/4/10 at 11:11 AM

[Calvin]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 11:36am

plus the more crazy-pants candidates lost (as far as i know) save for rand paul

And Toomey. And Rubio. And the Real World doofus.

eta: And YWIW is right about Romney. In fact, teabagger torch-carrier Joseph Farah recently put out a column saying that electing Romney as president would be the final nail in the coffin of the country. Updated On: 11/4/10 at 11:36 AM

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 11:56am

Wait, Toomey won in PA? I thought Sesteck had won for some reason.

I've just got to say that Mitch McConnell is annoying the hell out of me. STFU *hole.

[danmag]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 12:35pm

Toomey DID win, Dottie.

That guys forehead looks like a flat screen tv. He also reminds me of the Crypt Keeper for some reason.

[Calvin]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 12:50pm

He reminds me of the cryptkeeper because I know his appearance is going to be followed by a frightening story that does not end well.

[JudasIscariot]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 1:36pm

It's not Republicans making gays live as second class citizens, it's people. Democrats obviously don't support gay marriage, as their party hasn't legalized it with all the time that they've had in office. It's so foolish to clump everyone into one category based on their political party. I'm a Republican, and I fully support gay marriage. I know plenty that don't, but I also know plenty of Democrats that don't.

I know that this post is going to be ignored or picked apart, and I will be referred to as a member of the Fourth Reich. However, I don't think that a political party whose intention is lower taxes, individual state rights, the banning of abortion, etc. can be even begin to be compared to a political party that caused one of the greatest cases of genocide that the world has ever seen. The term The Fourth Reich is offensive, hateful, and juvenile.

How do you even function with the amount of hate that you spew out of your mouth, Roscoe? What's funny is that you clearly have no intention of wanting things to get better, because all you do is spread negativity. I am tired of people clumping Republicans together due to a few whackos. That is discrimination in itself. I am not a bad person for being a Republican. I may be in a party with a few bad people, but so are you if you are a Democrat.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 1:37pm

If Romney is the nominee, I think there would be a major movement for a 3rd party, Tea Party candidate in the Presidential election. Fine with me. Iowa is going to be battleground suck-up for the Republicans as their primary set up is winner takes all (though Huckabee broke the streak of guys who won Iowa win the nomination for the GOP). John Thune is also my prediction as either President or VP nominee. He earned major brownie points when he first came to the Senate taking out Majority Leader Daschle.

[madbrian]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 1:47pm

Judas - the repeal of DADT was approved by the House, with no GOP support. It was stopped in the Senate by a GOP filibuster. GOP platforms in many states have explicit objectives to take steps against the gay community, from prohibiting marriage and adoption to criminalizing gay sex. The GOP governor of Virginia rewrote a standing executive order to enable discrimination against gays in the workplace. While it's not reasonable to project their bigotry to every single Republican, it's also unreasonable to try to equate the parties with regards to civil rights.

While I agree that Roscoe's term serves no purpose, the GOP as an institution, does practice fearmongering. If it's not the blacks it's the gays, and if it's not the gays it's the immigrants, and if it's not the immigrants it's the Muslims. The GOP counts on defining 'them', the entity who is to blame for white Americans' woes.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:06pm

Also the key figure in getting DADT repealed in the House, Patrick Murphy (a military veteran of the Iraq War who also taught at West Point), was voted out of office and succeeded by a 'family values' ex-Congressman.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:18pm

And the right went hunting for (And removed) three Iowa supreme court justices they thought were "legislating from the bench."

The most sustained effort to oust judges in this election cycle was in Iowa, where out-of-state organizations opposed to gay marriage, including the National Organization for Marriage and the American Family Association, poured money into the removal campaign. Judges face no opponents in retention elections and simply need to win more yes votes than no votes to go on to another eight-year term. In Iowa, the three ousted justices did not raise campaign money, and they only made public appearances defending themselves toward the end of the election.

Each of the three justices — Marsha K. Ternus, the chief justice; Michael J. Streit; and David L. Baker — received about 45 percent of the vote, making this the first time members of the state’s high court had been rejected by voters. The 71 lower court judges on the ballot all easily won re-election.
sending a message to courts

[madbrian]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:28pm

Oh, and just to make it even more difficult to get anything done during this lame duck session, the courts had ordered that whoever won the Illinois Senate seat would immediately replace Roland Burris, the interim appointee. So, the GOP immediately takes over one senate seat, even before the new Congress is sworn in. This will make it just a little easier for the GOP to filibuster anything & everything over the next two months.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:29pm

I'm sorry.

Did we just get a lecture on propriety and discrimination from someone with an Uncle Remus avatar?

Really?

Hey...I agree. Not all Republicans are homobigots. Probably not even most. But the party and platform? Come, now.

If you don't like that you're party is thought to be a bunch of homobigots, then get out the can of Pledge and start cleaning your SH*T up.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:37pm

Mark Kirk (the new Illinois senator- who will begin serving during the lame duck session) has said that he is mindful of his role as representing a moderate state like Illinois and looks forward to consensus building and that he will absolutely NOT compromise with Democrats and looks forward to voting against anything Obama proposes.
Yep, really.

[Calvin]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:42pm

Now you know I likes ya, Judas -- but we're dealing with a Republican party right now whose brightest stars include:

*A newly elected senator who'd like to see the civil rights act repealed
*A sitting congresswoman who has allied herself with a ministry calling for the execution of gays
*A leading presidential contender who thinks there should be an outright ban on mosques being built in the U.S.
*A very prominent sitting senator who thinks gays should not be allowed to be teachers

And to social moderates/liberals like you, they've said there's no place at the table. Just ask Dede Scozzafava or Mike Castle or, if things don't change in four years, Lindsey Graham. The fact that I just had to call Lindsey Graham a moderate should be some indication. Or the fact that Lisa Murkowski, who has a big fat zero voting score from the Human Rights Campaign, is now considered too moderate.

Most of the Democrats are weak, ineffective, namby-pamby and mostly useless. I almost wish Sharron Angle had won, at least if I was certain she'd be a one-termer, so we'd be rid of Reid as a majority leader. But the GOP kingmakers right now are a truly frightening bunch. The Democrats have and will do nothing to make gay marriage happen. The Republicans, however, seem to have moved to the point where they don't even want gays to exist.
Updated On: 11/4/10 at 02:42 PM

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:45pm

Someone with Uncle Remus as an avatar is lecturing others on what's offensive, hateful, and juvenile?


EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the earlier query regarding this. Updated On: 11/4/10 at 02:45 PM

[JudasIscariot]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 2:51pm

RobbieJ - Song of the South is a classic fantastic movie. I really like it, hence the avatar. It's not meant to be racist. As for getting out the Pledge and cleaning my **** up, it's not my **** at all. I am incredibly frustrated with the Republicans because the party is at the moment NOT what is reflected by its actual platform. It's gotten out of control, I agree, and we need more realistic thinking candidates.

Calvin - Believe me, many Republicans like myself are completely frustrated with the current state of the party and our candidates. I'm more of a libertarian to tell you the truth. I just hate being clumped with the psychos or incredibly fake people like Palin. The party needs to change its image, I agree. Being against gay marriage is not at all what is reflected in the party's platform. Republicans support state rights and if individual states vote for gay marriage, then the party should listen. Also, we have a problem with the super religious right. I myself am a Christian, however I support gay marriage. Jesus taught of love and tolerance, and being against gay marriage is obviously not tolerance or love. For those claiming that gays will go to Hell, these people need to get off of their high horse. If they go to Hell, well then that is between God and them. However, we should love our neighbors as we love ourselves. It's not our place to judge, but it is our place to ensure that America is a land where everyone is free and equal. You can be a Christian Republican and support gay marriage. Many people that I know are. It's these outspoken loudmouths giving us a terrible image, and they need to get the Hell out, as they aren't welcome.

Edit: Removed the avatar in case some people actually did find it offensive.
Updated On: 11/4/10 at 02:51 PM

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 11/4/10 at 3:01pm

JoeKv - I find the situation regarding the judges from Iowa absolutely frightening.