"Not if your name is Dario Argento and you essentially INVENTED the entire fvcking GENRE"
Wait i think you will find films way earlier (Psycho) paved the way for the slasher genre.
Im a HUGE Dario fan but to credit him with inventing the slasher genre is absurd.
And i stand by (even through your swearing) that no horror films/slasher films are original as they all take their influence from true stories/urban legends/greek tradegdy etc
For someone who is a fan of Dario and his work to then go on and praise a crittcally panned remake of Halloween, well that just strikes me as odd.
Dario was all about style and imagery, something the new Halloween lacked. It turned an atmospheric american thriller/slasher in to a run of the mill slasher. Halloween was a stalk and slash movie played through primal fears, the new one scrapped the stalk and fear and upped the slasher.
Zombie also failed in his way to show how Michale became who he was. The red neck story telling was silly, im not saying that there aint more red necks in that area or that would be closer to the way of life blah blah blah, but the whole thing was that it was middle class surburbia.
It was similar to Desperate Housewives in the sense that it made it more creepy because it happened in a place that we dont think of these things happening. Where the well run houses, the picket fences hold darkness behind them..........thats the point Zombie missed, thats why the critics hated it and the new number 2.
And also, so what if carpenter took influence from Dario, do you think Dario didnt take influence from anywhere.....Grand Guignol? dont be so silly
All directors, writers take influence from somewhere, even Dario.
And as i said about your Nightmare point with it been oh so original for Wes, the movie is based on newspaper reports of a young man who died in his sleep and also is very similar to a movie that came out a few years before.
The slasher genre started to take shape through Grand Guignol plays in paris and eventually started to shape in to stories told through film, the horror genre started to change through films like Pyscho and a few years later Dario films before films like Black Christmas (the 1st of the true slashers for the new era) and Halloween opened it up to the mainstream audience.
Sorry to go on, but im so in love with this genre lol, i studied the Horror Genre through theatre and film at College
As for the new Elm Street remake, we all know its pointless like most remakes are but i will say it deserves a chance before we just write it off. I adore Elm Street (another turning point in the history of the slasher) and even its average to bad sequels, but im gonna wait and see 1st before passing judgement.
The trailer is intresting, i like the cinematography from what i can see and the bfief scenes look fun and the nods to the original are much appreciated. Its strange to see a new actor playing Freddy but im willing to give him a chance as he is a damn good actor.
Years ago i had the knives out for the Chainsaw remake and i was wrong. It turned out to be an effective and scary slasher which brought a lot of new ideas to the original (and had a great performance from Biel). Granted the other Platinum Dunnes releases have been a bit naff, but with this one i will wait and see.
So please dont make out like you are the know it all of the genre as other people on here have studied this genre inside out
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
Updated On: 9/28/09 at 08:15 PM
