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The Passion Recut

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Mister Matt
#25re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 9:45am

"What's the big moral dilemma? So people are making more money off them. So what?"

The big deal was Gibson's insistence on the one gorey version being released exactly as it was with no cuts and his uncompromising position on the matter under the instruction of Jesus. Now that he made a mint off it, he'll chop up the film however anyone wants to see it just for a buck.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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JohnPopa
#26re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 9:53am

Yeah, I should have been more clear: I'm not sure why people would have a problem with Spielberg or Lucas rereleasing their flicks.

I see the possible debate regarding 'The Passion.'

Feodor Sverdlov
#27re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 10:36am

Having read all these posts, it escapes me what's at issue here. When did the film BUSINESS become something other than a business?????? Mel Gibson marketed a film idea to every single Hollywood studio and producer. Everyone of them told him to go the hell. He took $30 million of his own money to make a film. An enormous gamble. Why shouldn't he make every single cent that somebody is willing to spend? Why?


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robbiej
#28re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 10:41am

Remember when they used to show SOUND OF MUSIC every Easter?

My, how times have changed.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

Gothampc
#29re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 12:26pm

What's the big deal? You don't like the movie, don't go see it.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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DBillyP
#30re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 2:31pm

"Why shouldn't he make every single cent that somebody is willing to spend? Why?"

Well, what would Jesus do with all that money?!? Keep it? I think not.

I read that one of the differences in "Recut" will be showing Jesus' face as he is scourged rather than the scourging itself. Incidentally, "Recut" still received an "R" rating after the initial recutting.


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

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Justice
#32re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 2:39pm

Talk about exploiting Jesus' death. There's a place in hell for Mel.


"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.

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PalJoey
#34re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 3:55pm

I am firmly against piracy and a staunch defender of the rights of copyright owners, but I bought a bootleg copy of The Passion from one of those guys on Canal Street.

I still haven't watched it, but I know that, when I do, not a penny of my money is going into Mel Gibson's pocket.


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Justice
#35re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 4:09pm

Kudos to PalJoey...That's exactly how i purchase Eminem cd's


"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.

Feodor Sverdlov
#36re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 4:19pm

"Well, what would Jesus do with all that money?!? Keep it? I think not. "

I don't have a clue what that has to do with anyting. It doesn't even make any sense. What does what Jesus would do with money have to do with somebody who made a movie? But never mind that, tell me what you know about HEALING THE CHILDREN? Go on. My guess is that you know nothing about it, or the millions that Mel Gibson has contributed to it, nor do you know anything about him or his charitable works; and that's because a person who is truly being charitable, doesn't have a press agent informing the world about it.


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DBillyP
#38re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 4:58pm

You are right Feodor; I was unaware of "Healing the Children" and Mel Gibson's financial involvement with it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

My point was that earning hundreds of millions of dollars primarily for one's personal gain from a film about Jesus hardly seems to be a Biblically-based spiritual practice. When that film is intended to be a historically and Biblically accurate account of events, it seems even less so. It is my understanding that Mel Gibson is a billionaire. Ten million dollars is far less than a Biblically described tithe on the the money that Mel Gibson has made off of this film.

Incidentally, as for its historical accuracy, scholars are mostly in agreement that Jesus was nailed through the wrists not the hand as depicted in the film, or at least the advertisements. (I did not see the film.) From what I understand, it is also believed that the cross used was a "Tau Cross."


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

Feodor Sverdlov
#39re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 4:59pm

I agree with you shamrockboy!!! I've always found Mel Gibson to be a bit of a bore, in films. Frankly, I hope he just goes off somewhere and spends his money, quietly. I thought THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST was a well-crafted film, but lacked any real engaging narrative, for me. Millions loved it. But there are plenty of films that millions loved that I didn't. I don't begrudge their success. I still don't get the outrage over this one. I was more outraged at MY FAIR LADY and ANNIE!!


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DonelBee
#40re: The Passion Recut
Posted: 3/8/05 at 6:43pm

Does this mean that the original version will now be known as "Bigger, Longer and Uncut?"


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