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#151

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Well, sorry if the camera didn't concentrate on Angel and Collins the whole time. After just watching it for the 10101039014637 time, i'm pretty sure that it was evident that they were/are a happy gay couple, and there is nothing wrong with that or the trailer.
#152

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As someone who lives literally in the middle of a red state, I was surprised that they showed as much as they did. Maureen and Joanne kissing surprised me. The moment in the trailer that really surprised me and I was very happy to see was Angel taking of his wig. I was stunned that they were willing to be so open about Angel being cross dresser. What else really surprised me was the second after the trailer end I heard about half the theater say “I didn’t realize that song was from a musical” and “We have to see that opening day.” The trailer has really impressed everyone I have talked to, it is very obvious that people (both the liberals and conservatives) I have talked to read what was going on, because to me it was not hidden. Maybe I am completely wrong. I do know that people who have never heard of Rent are excited to see this movie. They are also were a buzz about Angel doing that back flip. That is all coming from one of the states that banned gay marriage. Does this make any since or am I making a fool out of myself?
#153

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Lavieboheme,

Thanks you for posting that story, i geuss it's kind of enlighting to know that people are opened to the movie. Even in your state, lol...and no, you didn't make a fool of yourself.
#155

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I believe the trailer should be altered to include scenes of male-male interactions that are equivalent in intimacy to those depicted for the opposite-sex lovers. If it isn't changed, then I believe Columbia and Sony have lost all credibility.
#157

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I gotta throw this out there. Does anyone really thing that those movie executives are all straight and fighting to downplay the homosexuality in the movie. It's Hollywood people, they're all gay. It's about $$$$.
"You know just because you put a smiley face after it doesn't change the fact that it was an a-hole comment." ~ Sumofallthings
#158

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It doesn't matter to me whether the movie executives are gay or straight - that's their personal business. What matters to me is that the RENT trailer does justice to the production. At this stage, the trailer fails to do this. Note also in the movie poster how they show the two women together but not the two men. There's a pattern there that indicates a downplaying of the gay male affection.
#159

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The notion that prejudice is justified if the aim is to make money is absolutely revolting. Yet some on this board seem to be using this form of logic to justify the exclusion of gay male affection from the RENT trailer. It's like saying that slavery was justified because alot of white people made money out of it.
#160

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What is revolting is that you fail to see that there is more gay male affection in the trailer than any other couple recives. It just happens to be in hand holding, hugging, and the quick simple looks that two people who love each other share, not in kissing. The trailer beautifully represents the tender relationship between Angel and Collins. Anyone who knows the show can see that, and if you are one of the three people left who doesn't know anything about this show then maybe they won't see it... doubtful though.
"You know just because you put a smiley face after it doesn't change the fact that it was an a-hole comment." ~ Sumofallthings
#161

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Art,
Take your argument to GLAAD and stay away from these message boards! This is not a gay podium.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#162

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art has a point and his/her right to an opinon, but this thread is rude, stupid, and repetitive. haven't we covered everything here? let's all say something nice about the people on here. :) I'll start. it is great that we have so many theater dorks and experts on here to get info from. :)
#163

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I think this thread is hilarious, 'art' you continue to bring up the same point over and over again when it has already been discused and over with.
#164

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now I'll chime in,

art2........an opinion is one thing.......but this little OCD moment you continue to foster truly is a sign of something inherently in need of psychiatic attention.

The trailer is NOT homophobic, not ALL historical figures are gay (why do I think next you'll say Henry VIII was gay.....the the whole world does not exist in a giant pink "Zanna Don't! bubble"

Please go away........as a gay man I am embarrassed by your continued stupidity......and your inability to grasp how the world works.

and that's my last word on the subject because truly you are not worth any more of my time
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#166

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For the love of of whatever you believe in and all things sacred an good, please let this thread die. I have resisted responding further because I did not want to feed Art's strange obsession with this issue, and his clear view that anything that does not comport exactly with is value system is de facto homophobic. Nice world you live in.

Art - boycott the movie. Fine. Urge those who feel as you do not to go. I am sure the money lost will have a big impact on overall box office . . . You made your point. Many of us just don't agree with it.

Everyone else, stop posting so this thread is not perpetuated and Art's obsession with this topic will not be fed. His opinion will not change, and I think he gets strange satisfaction at seeing us react to his posts.
#167

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The sleazy marketing of the RENT movie is a case study of how homophobes can take something and twist it into something it isn't for the sake of a few perceived bucks. I suspect, though, that this will backfire. My gut feeling is that many in the gay community, as well as their straight friends, will react in the same cynical way they reacted to the Alexander trailer.
#168

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Okay, enough is enough. Art, you are REALLY pissing me off, and I kindly request that this troll be BANNED for good, and just let this thread die.
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#169

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I wouldn't be spending my time conveying my feelings if I didn't feel strongly about this issue. But I think this is a most important issue that demonstrates how gay people are being oppressed not just by the religious right but also by the cultural left. This oppression is especially felt by gay men who have to suffer the double standards of the libido liberals - i.e. those straights who think two men showing affection is disgusting while two women doing it is totally kosher.

As for being annoyed by my post, that is your absolute right.
#170

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I am a black gay male. Don't compare the rent trailer to slavery. Just don't do it. And art, if you want that much gay male affection, go rent some porn for God's sakes!

The trailer is fine. Beautifully done. It shows enough to please everybody. I am sure the movie had not been edited yet and I bet the studio knows that a lot of people are looking forward to this movie and put the teaser out there. Closer to the film's release I am sure there will be another trailer. (Which you will probably still hate even if it had man on man sex) So chill out and maybe actually LOOK at the trailer and you will see that the gay community is represented. And once again, the show was not all about being gay. The beauty of this show was all about life, love and being a human being, gay, straight or otherwise. If you can't see that, then you missed the whole point of the show. AS someone said earlier in this thread....these people have taken years to bring us the movie we hope for and now that it is (possibly) here, we spit on it. (And we not meaning all of us. Just those that are already critizing the frigging teaser). I'm done.
Just give the world Love. - S. Wonder
#171

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I've been reading and following this thread, and so far have resisted posting about it as so many very valid and intelligently arguable points have been made.(Along with some mud slinging.) But a thought occurs: if Chris Columbus and the production execs were truly as homophobic as Art2 implies, I think that the trailer and movie would have suffered far more. True homophobia would have resulted in changing the script and making Angel a girl. Period.
Benighted as many in this country still are, this has not happened. While full representation and legal rights under the law HAS to be the ideal we strive for, it begins in the heart. Hearts don't generally change quickly, as much as we'd like them to. Acceptance and love, like hate, have to be taught. I've lived on this earth long enough to have come from a time when certain racial slurs were almost considered "normal", and homosexuality was not mentioned in the mainstream culture at all, except perhaps in derisive whispers. Did it make it right or acceptable? Of course not. The struggle for civil rights for ALL people is an on-going fight.
I find the RENT trailer a positive thing as it will do what it is designed to do - get people who aren't familiar with the show and its story into the theatre, and truthfully, there are many, many people who know nothing about the show. That's where hearts begin to be changed. I think RENT's strength to do this is in the fact that it treats all love as valid and fulfilling not exceptional or shocking. Sorry, if this is long-winded or pompous. It's not intended to be.
"And the postman sighed as he scratched his head, you really rather thought she ought to be dead..."
#173

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Uncageg,

I think you're trivializing the issue and misrepresenting my position. I simply want images of gay male affection that are equivalent in terms of intimacy to those used to portray the straight relationships. Is this too much to ask?
#174

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Grizzabella,

The RENT trailer aids and abets those who believe that gay male affection is something to be ashamed of. Compare the way it's been treated to the way the heterosexual lovers have been treated. Disgraceful isn't a strong enough word.
#175

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YES!
And just to throw out there, I'm not really fealing that oppressed latley.
"You know just because you put a smiley face after it doesn't change the fact that it was an a-hole comment." ~ Sumofallthings

Updated On: 8/12/05 at 12:38 PM

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