Thoughts on PRECIOUS? — Page 3
#52
Posted: 11/10/09 at 7:17am
I saw the lead in the movie on Ellen and she was absolutely hilarious. She came out with a choreographed dance that she said she and her friend made up especially for her appearance on the show. She was on Letterman last night. I found the actress to be very engaging and humbled- very refreshing!
#53
Posted: 11/10/09 at 10:12am
I loathe the title of this film. I hope everyone now titles their films with the author's name.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
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"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#54
Posted: 11/10/09 at 10:52am
Precious is the character's middle name, right?
Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!
#55
Posted: 11/10/09 at 10:57am
I believe that they were contractually obligated to include the subtitle "Based on the novel Push by Sapphire".
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#56
Posted: 11/10/09 at 11:48am
Contract or not, it's the most pretentious thing I've ever heard.
I've always hated that the title of The Music Man is actually Meredith Wilson's Music Man.
I've always hated that the title of The Music Man is actually Meredith Wilson's Music Man.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#57
Posted: 11/10/09 at 12:33pm
JRB_actor - I realize that the observations I've made were more a comment about the flaws in the social system during the 80's, and not so much about the flaws in the movie. And unfortunately a lot of it is accurate like you said. I went in thinking that Mariah was going to be the exception to the norms at the time to help change Precious' life, which is why I was slightly disappointed. Perhaps I should have read the book first. I still think it's a brilliant film, I just wanted so badly for the social work profession to have a more positive light shined on it. I'd have to keep it in mind that it's not that kind of story if I saw it again.
#58
Posted: 11/10/09 at 12:45pm
Well, I came away with the feeling that Carey's character was a positive portrayal of a social worker. And because of her and Ms Rain, Precious gets out of the nightmare she was living in to make a better life for herself (as much as she can given what can not be changed, of course). It was such an honest film in that no one was perfect. And this system we live in is far from perfect.
#59
Posted: 11/10/09 at 4:48pm
I've enjoyed reading aobut everyone's reaction to the film---the film festival showing here sold out rather quickly, so I have to wait to see it. I'm not paying any attention to the hype, but the article on Lee Daniels in the NYT Magazine a few Sundays ago made me want to see the film. Glad most are liking it.
"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"
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#60
Posted: 11/10/09 at 9:39pm
The movie was quite long at almost 2 hours. I was not bored once. Performances were very strong. This girl's life is painful and heart-wrenching. The comic relief was perfect. It was a wonderful film.
and how cute was Lenny Kravitz as the nurse?
and how cute was Lenny Kravitz as the nurse?
#61
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:51am
Just got home from seeing it and it is really quite powerful. I'm also listening to the audiobook (unabridged) which is a different experience of the same material. It is also excellent.
Sueleen Gay: "Here you go, Bitch, now go make some fukcing lemonade." 10/28/10
#63
Posted: 11/12/09 at 11:28am
#64
Posted: 11/12/09 at 11:57am
doodle, I believe the movie originally was just supposed to be called "Push," but another movie (that was a flop with both audiences and critics) came out earlier this year with the same name, so they changed it to avoid confusion.
#65
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:01pm
Yeah--Calvin is right. But with the popularity of the book, you can't blame them for the extended title given the situation.
Though at this point, they aren't having problems selling tickets.
Though at this point, they aren't having problems selling tickets.
#66
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:01pm
I understand that Calvin...but it's so effing pretentious.
I'm gonna come out with my own "film" ala Carrie Prejean and call it "Pull" based on the dirty mind of doodlenyc!"
I'm gonna come out with my own "film" ala Carrie Prejean and call it "Pull" based on the dirty mind of doodlenyc!"
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#67
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:12pm
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Opening December 25th, 2022
In New York and LA.
Additional cities April 1st.
Opening December 25th, 2022
In New York and LA.
Additional cities April 1st.
#68
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:18pm
doodle, I was going to call it "In the Next Room 2 (or the finger play)."
#69
Posted: 11/12/09 at 12:28pm
Marquise, that was a terrific article.
#70
Posted: 11/12/09 at 1:00pm
It is a terrific article. I am looking forward to seeing this film as it hits so close to home on so many levels. I've known girls like "Precious" as I grew up in the inner city in an underprivileged environment.
#71
Posted: 11/12/09 at 7:06pm
Rich from FourFour reviews the film:
"After its rapturous response on the festival circuit, Precious received something of a backlash as its release approached. There is a certain faction of the critic population that feels it is obvious, emotional porn, which preys on the sympathy of guilty whites. I'm not really interested in picking through the minutiae, but I do wonder what would have made these people happy. (Just not telling this character's story?) Any serious movie about the lives of black people risks a pandering following, but I'm pretty sure that Sapphire didn't write her book for white people. I'm pretty sure that Lee Daniels wasn't thinking, "All my peoples up in Connecticut are going to flip their **** when they catch my Ntozake Shange reference!" I'm pretty sure that the kind of political correctness those are supposedly exhibiting when they gush about Precious is skin-deep, that your average guilty liberal isn't going to marvel at the breadth of representation of women of color that's going on here. I don't remember the last time I saw a movie that offered so many vivid depictions of black women."
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2009/11/we-arent-all-precious.html#more
"After its rapturous response on the festival circuit, Precious received something of a backlash as its release approached. There is a certain faction of the critic population that feels it is obvious, emotional porn, which preys on the sympathy of guilty whites. I'm not really interested in picking through the minutiae, but I do wonder what would have made these people happy. (Just not telling this character's story?) Any serious movie about the lives of black people risks a pandering following, but I'm pretty sure that Sapphire didn't write her book for white people. I'm pretty sure that Lee Daniels wasn't thinking, "All my peoples up in Connecticut are going to flip their **** when they catch my Ntozake Shange reference!" I'm pretty sure that the kind of political correctness those are supposedly exhibiting when they gush about Precious is skin-deep, that your average guilty liberal isn't going to marvel at the breadth of representation of women of color that's going on here. I don't remember the last time I saw a movie that offered so many vivid depictions of black women."
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2009/11/we-arent-all-precious.html#more
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#72
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:57am
I don't see this as a "made for the white folk" film, either. Yes, the message is one of triumph, but the victories are small and not neatly wrapped up with a perfect ending.
In the end, the details of Precious's abuse don't matter...they made her feel like a non-person. There are versions of the same story that cut across racial and economic boundaries. Same story; just packaged differently.
The beauty of Precious is watching her slowly come alive as a person. And smile. And have a voice.
The details of my life have little in common with those Precious experienced, but I found a lot to relate to emotionally. And I'm not talking about white liberal guilt, either.
In the end, the details of Precious's abuse don't matter...they made her feel like a non-person. There are versions of the same story that cut across racial and economic boundaries. Same story; just packaged differently.
The beauty of Precious is watching her slowly come alive as a person. And smile. And have a voice.
The details of my life have little in common with those Precious experienced, but I found a lot to relate to emotionally. And I'm not talking about white liberal guilt, either.
Sueleen Gay: "Here you go, Bitch, now go make some fukcing lemonade." 10/28/10
#73
Posted: 11/13/09 at 12:08pm
Exactly. There was much that I could connect to--even though my life is far better off in so many ways (though there were moments of physical/verbal abuse in my childhood). There was so much humanity fighting to break free in this film.
And, sadly, I knew poor, white girls who were in very similar shoes as Precious while growing up in Texas. In fact, I reconnected with one of them on Facebook this past year. I didn't even know half of what she had endured when we were kids. Thankfully, this girl survived and is now happily married with children.
Despite a richly, specific story, there is universality.
And, sadly, I knew poor, white girls who were in very similar shoes as Precious while growing up in Texas. In fact, I reconnected with one of them on Facebook this past year. I didn't even know half of what she had endured when we were kids. Thankfully, this girl survived and is now happily married with children.
Despite a richly, specific story, there is universality.
#74
Posted: 11/13/09 at 12:26pm
Agreed! There is so much to connect to no matter what you're situation.
PS - Gabby is on Conan tonight! :)
PS - Gabby is on Conan tonight! :)
#75
Posted: 11/13/09 at 6:48pm
Thanks Marquise! that was the article I read, and liked it even better the second time around!
"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"
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