Tiff and Cam present The Official B*tches of Eastwick Thread Version 2.5- Page 18

[beacon1]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 12:23pm

Tiff...check out the "Patrick Wilson as you've never seen him..." thread. More nifty stuff for "Hard Candy"...including a link to the production notes.

I so want to see this movie. How twisted does that make me?

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 2:27pm

YWIW, DD, Cam and I are in Seattle next Monday-Wednesday! (DD lives there, Cam's flying in Sunday night, I take a coach down there on Monday morning.) Are we allowed to reference a pierced Space Needle, or is that too Freudian and obscene?

Beacon, you naughty lady! It DOES make you twisted, but I can't wait to see it too! Somehow I always wind up finding the bad guy more appealing than the hero! (Jason Isaacs? Dougray Scott? Mmmm...) Although I guess Patrick isn't exactly the "bad guy" 100% depending on how you look at it.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 4:10pm

Seattle may never be the same.

Take pictures - it will be worth it to be at least a virtual fly on the wall!

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 4:12pm

Oh i'll take plenty of photos of Shib. Gonna make sure it doesn't work the other way around though! Like I need more blackmail, especially in my bloated, especially fat fat fat self!

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 4:13pm

So the cult convenes in real life? Are you sure Seattle is big enough for all of ya?

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 4:14pm

DD, Cam and TIff?

I don't think there will be a single picture that they can even e-mail you that does not break about 10 Federal laws.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 4:19pm

Marlene, have you SEEN my hips? The entire state of Washington isn't big enough for me, much less the three of us!

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:10pm

OMG, this is like almost venturing on to page twooooo.

No I try not to look at you during our sessions.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:18pm

I'm trembling at the prospect of a good legal debate tonight.

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:23pm

With me? Whooooo, if we dethrone the captain of our Mock Trial team (who is being a total slacker and has not worked on our case), I get to be a lawyer! <333 Right now, I just get to hone my acting skills as a really f-ed up witness.

How's applying to law school going, or are all the apps finally in?
Updated On: 2/4/06 at 07:23 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:26pm

I've got one more app for McGill Law School that I'm trying valiantly to finish before Monday. It also appears that one of my academic reference letters hasn't arrived yet - and it was supposedly mailed out in mid-October! - so it's a good thing I randomly found out it wasn't there, otherwise my application package would've never been opened, much less considered!

What do you do for your Mock Trial team? That sounds so interesting!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:31pm

I did Law Review, and actually got published.

I tried to do Mock Trial, but I did too much mocking for my own good.

Man, that was so long ago. I am such a Hag.

Updated On: 2/4/06 at 07:31 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:35pm

I tried to do Mock Trial, but I did too much mocking for my own good.

"Nice robe, Your DIShonor..." *snort*

I can't wait for mock trial semesters. I really can't.

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:37pm

Erm, last term we did some competition for Fordham University, which is death, appeals court stuff. I was on the lovely bench team since all the seniors got parts, and not the lowerclassmen. So I got to read lots of cases and made notes...at ate those really good cookies. YAY!

Thank goodness the NY bar association loves me, so the competition were doing now involves two teams of 6 people and not just 6. It's surprisingly a criminal case this year. It's the whole shiz...basically we present a case: opening, directs, crosses, and closing...that we get to write!!! (And then our mentors at the law firm give us the face...and ask us wtf we're going...)

The case is always ridiculous, and so are the facts. My affidavit is laughable: my sister dies, my friend is involved in her death, and somehow I'm a witness for my best friend in the case. (And I remember nothing because my eyes are closed...) I'm going to be eaten alive on my cross. I dislike my lawyer…she is a vegetable. She never makes objections when she should...oy.

Hrrrrm, I think Mock Trial is just a bad excuse drop off at Bloomies, twice a week...
Updated On: 2/4/06 at 07:37 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:42pm

Marlene, just when I have hope . . .

"Thank goodness the NY bar association loves me, so the competition were doing now involves two teams of 6 people and not just 6."

I still have not figured out whether you say this stuff to get a reaction, or just say it. It must be my limitations, I am after all, and old hag.

On a more interesting note, what objections should she be making that she is not?
Updated On: 2/4/06 at 07:42 PM

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:50pm

Objections in general. She's not very good at thinking on her feet. I don't think she ever pays attention during the crosses. I wasn't on her team last year, she was prosecution, I was a witness on defense. But she let all these questions be asked to her witness that shouldn't have been. It was pretty bad, when the scores came back we found out that we didn't advance (we were a point from the cut off, actually if the person who did the prosecution's opening remembered to introduce herself we wouldn't have lost a point there) and that the defense team's score was a good 10 points higher (nearly perfect) than the prosecution. The results just baffled our lawyers...I was on the slacker team...we didn't write our directs, openings, and crosses until the week before the competition, I was still learning my facts while being prodded at a metal detector...somehow we ripped apart the other team. (I think it was intimidation tactics to an extent...and the fact that when the name of my school is mentioned within the nyc school system a mental "f*ck, why do we go against the freaky smart kids" totally registers)

Right now I'm just trying to seal that deal that I'm part of new triumvirate when the Seniors leave. So I get to slap “President of the Mock Trial/Moot Court Team” on my college application.


Updated On: 2/4/06 at 07:50 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 7:57pm

How much leeway do the witnesses get in these cases? Are these usually Constitution cases or what?

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:03pm

For the Fordham U competition, it's usually involves constitutional rights, we did a case on search and seizure/freedom of speech. (It actually had to do with a school's internet policy and some kid's Columbine-esque website this year, the year before it was religious symbols in a piblic school...you get the drift.) We have the rulings from a lower and higher circuit court and work off of that.

NYBA's competition is basically reinacting and episode of L&O, except we don't have a jury so the lawyers speak to the judge...

Witnesses...each of them have a 3-4 page affidavit, so you basically get your facts off of that. Say something wrong, and if the oposing council is smart, they'll smack you with it!

Basically the whole point of the competition is to go through the formalities of how to conduct the case, so we often do ridiculous things that we wouldn't normally do. Like last year, we attempted to enter my character as an expert witness, on very crappy grounds...it didn't got through, but you would get points for that because we had a half assed argument for it.
Updated On: 2/4/06 at 08:03 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:05pm

So is it still a he-said, she-said debate or no?

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:09pm

To an extent...

This year it's totally down to the expert witnesses, the state trooper cop vs. the expensive crash investigation guy the yuppie parents hired after their son/daughter died. And a lot of he-said, she-said with the other witnesses. I don't even know why we have other witnesses, everyone's in the car is either dead, or wasn't aware of what happened in the car during the crash. And we have some kid on a bike that was jay walking, that made the car turnover. Updated On: 2/4/06 at 08:09 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:11pm

Are you any good?

[Marlene]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:16pm

If I tried harder I would be really good. But to be honest we sort of turn it into a little party...and there is sooo much drama with in the team that sometimes I think we've debating over our lives instead of the cases. Well everything's on my plate next year, I'll be expected to be a lawyer. Then there's going to be a b*tch fest as to who is one of the three co-presidents. (You undeniably can't not give this one girl the title, because she's really serious, she's really driven, and yeaaaah, she's just special [no one wants to give it to her, but I will honestly say something if she isn't]...but then there's my little circle of friends, and that's where it's going to get ugly.)

My school usually doesn't advance to the state level because no one on the team takes it seriously...the last time we won the whole competition was like when RENT was new on bway...
Updated On: 2/4/06 at 08:16 PM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:28pm

Do all high schools do this? Is it taken really seriously? Does it actually look good in your personal statement or resume to list this for your JD application?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:32pm

I have no idea.

My JD statement was all about international law and relations.

I don't recall if my application even referenced high school.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/4/06 at 8:34pm

I would say unless you did something significant in high school, it's quite irrelevant, isn't it? I mean, you have 3-5 years of your Bachelor's separating high school and law school.