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#51

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

Am I the only one who finds The Rose overwrought and histrionic?

And I take exception with madbrian's post! I think Outrageous Fortune is a terrific comedy.
#52

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

I like Stella, Outrageous Fortune and Gypsy best. I think she was a stellar Rose.
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#53

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

Bette Midler has brought so much pleasure into my life, the bombs mostly don't even register with me. I will never understand the negative reception of For the Boys.

I agree. And I think the flashback scenes from FOR THE BOYS are generally excellent. For me the movie suffers from spending too much time in the present, where a decrepit Midler flirts with Arye Gross and we all look for defects in her make-up. It isn't that Midler is bad at playing an old woman; it's just one of those devices where less is more on film. JMO, obviously.
#54

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

Am I the only one who finds The Rose overwrought and histrionic?

No, but I think that's deliberate and much of what makes the performance brilliant! Midler is playing a character who is, in symbolic terms, simply so much larger than life she can't exist for long in this world.

I think it's a breath-taking (and absolutely fearless) performance. Unfortunately, there haven't been more leading roles like that for Midler.

I'd say her second-best film is OUTRAGEOUS FORTUNE, a movie I really enjoy, but hardly in the same class as THE ROSE.
#55

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

When you look at The Rose today you still see a lot of Bette Midler, but it might be the only time she really played a character instead of just playing BETTE.
#56

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

But let's be fair - We're talking about Bette Midler. Do you really want to see a film where she plays a polite society woman in 1890's New York or a rom com where she's a boring housewife who finds love with the mailman? No. When you see a Bette movie, you expect to see BETTE in there an that's not a bad thing at all. It's much different than saying "Ugh, all I could see in that movie was Lindsay Lohan trying to play a character".
#57

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

^Funny you should say that, Jordan. There are many "uncharacteristic" roles I wouldn't want to see Midler in, but 20 years ago, I think she could have been a marvelous Arkadina in The Seagull, a role which would have suited her very well while still being quite different than what we've come to expect.
#58

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

No. When you see a Bette movie, you expect to see BETTE

That's what I meant about her bag of tricks. She's always gonna do that thing where she bugs her eyes; she'll always also bug her eyes and do that sneer where she kind of bucks her teeth a little bit. If she's singing, at some point, she'll shuffle her feet close together as she raises her hands skyward, almost in prayer, or more like she's drying her nails.

Whether or she ever could do a role without all that seems pretty beside the point, because it's clear she never well. But like Jordan said, when you go to see Bette Midler in something you are going to see Bette Midler in something. That's not necessarily a bad thing; as her hits show, when she's got at the top of her game, she's great. I just think looking back on her career shows she's pretty much recycled the same performance over and over.
#60

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

'No, but I think that's deliberate and much of what makes the performance brilliant!'

Gaveston...I didn't just mean her performance...I meant the entire film. It's just never resonated with me in any real way...so I never truly bought what it was selling.

I would say Bette Midler is a great star, but a middling actress. When she's right, she's a hoot. But I think her palette is generally limited, if vivid in color.
#63

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

In Then She Found Me, she was disappointingly un-Bette-like.


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Updated On: 11/27/12 at 11:20 PM

#66

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?


Bette's Inside the Actor's Studio ep
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#67

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

Gaveston...I didn't just mean her performance...I meant the entire film. It's just never resonated with me in any real way...so I never truly bought what it was selling.

I would say Bette Midler is a great star, but a middling actress. When she's right, she's a hoot. But I think her palette is generally limited, if vivid in color.


Well, from those opening chords and the shot of the plane with the painted rose arriving at the airport, the entire film wants to portray "ROCK 'N' ROLL" (capital letters intended) as this over-the-top lifestyle that few can survive for long. (If you compare it to Streisand's A STAR IS BORN, they aren't that different in that respect.) I can certainly see your point: the film doesn't show a world I have ever intended to visit, much less inhabit.

I wish I had a time machine and could go back and see Midler's Tzeitel on Broadway. (She replaced Joanna Merlin, whom we know to be a superior actress.) I suspect Midler can do anything she wants to do. But what she has wanted, apparently and as you say, is to be a movie star, not a great character actress (like Merlin).



Updated On: 11/29/12 at 06:55 PM

#68

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

I'm puzzled by that remark Gaveston- the Rose was quite obviously based on Janis Joplin (who died at age 27) but "ROCK AND ROLL" is littered with stars who lived hard and died young. That is obviously the story they wanted to tell- what's wrong with telling it?
#69

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

That is obviously the story they wanted to tell- what's wrong with telling it?

Absolutely nothing, Joe. I love the movie and have seen it dozens of times. (It's also one of Midler's best CDs.) I was defending the film to Robbie, who doesn't care for it.

I must have written something very poorly to give you the impression that I was knocking THE ROSE. I think it remains Midler's best film.
#70

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

"Am I the only one who finds The Rose overwrought and histrionic? "

No... I think Midler is a knock out in the role, but I find it so manipulative (something I have issue with in most of her movies) and hard to love. And, yes, I hate the song.
#73

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

And, yes, I hate the song.

So much respect and affection destroyed with six little words!




Updated On: 12/3/12 at 06:15 PM

#74

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

LOL We had a crazy teacher in grade 4 who was obsessed with Bette. He made us do countless, no doubt awful performances of The Rose and From a Distance at EVERY school function. I'm sure that plays a BIG part. (The Rose is used beautifully, in Japanese, for the touching final scene of the studio Ghibli "coming to terms with your childhood" anime, Only Yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T66vkmH8iEY )
#75

What is the WORST Bette Midler Movie?

Well, I'll grant you that "From a Distance" is a bit much and add that "Wind Beneath My Wings" is the most condescending lyric ever written (not to mention the hook always makes me think of farting).

But "The Rose"? Come on! True, it should never be sung by 4th graders under any circumstance. How could they even begin to understand it?

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