Young People are "The Entitlement Generation"...- Page 4
Young People are "The Entitlement Generation"...
#75rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 12:00am
At a parent teacher conference, one child wasn't speaking much, and not learning how to talk (turning 3, certain things are expected). Because he was learning English and Portugese from his Nanny. What did he hear more? Portugese. When we asked how often his parents were around, his mother responded.
"Well, I take day trips 3 days a week. And sometimes weekends. But (in justifying how she's NEVER home now), I cut out all international travel except for Japan and parts of Europe!"
I wanted to strangle her. She also had a newborn, maybe 3 months. I do ask myself, why do these people have children?
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Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#76rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 12:37amWas the kid speaking Portuguese, at least? Because being unable to speak at that age can indicate developmental disabilities.
#77rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 1:08am
Shira,
Those weren't her kids...those were her commodities. I had the same problem (as a nanny). The children are born because "it's time", or "I should, shouldn't I?". The children ended up wanting me around instead of mom. No language issue, though :)
And...they were better behaved with me. And...I never hit them. I just PAID ATTENTION to them.
I believe this is why many of these children end up with the entitlement problem. The parents are making up for their absence in their children's lives with gifts of computers, asinine birthday parties, IPods, cars, etc.
But....I get emails from the kids. And a great relationship with two wonderful teenagers. Their parents hardly get a glance.
You reap what you sow...
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#78rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 1:15am
"I do ask myself, why do these people have children?"
Because, like, they'll look so cuuuuute in this little $500 onesie from Nordstrom, and we can decorate the nursery with this adorable furniture set I saw at Pottery Barn Kids!
Seriously, nannies have all my respect. That is a tough job, man, and it's one I know I couldn't do.
And yes, there *is* a Pottery Barn Kids. Their motto should be "Your one-stop shop for overpriced furniture and clothing that your baby will just puke all over anyway..."
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Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#79rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 1:18am*snicker* Then there's the people at the bad baby name website who end up dubbing their kid Skylar Makinzy or some such thing because they're so busy trying to be "cool" and "unique" they forget the kid is going to have to deal with having their name pronounced by every new teacher they get until they graduate college.
#80rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 2:28am
Plum,
He wasn't speaking either, which, yes, indicates developmental difficulties. His mother wouldn't hear of it.
Nannies have ALL my respect. They really do.
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UglyBug
Understudy Joined: 6/13/05
#81rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 2:43am
""Your one-stop shop for overpriced furniture and clothing that your baby will just puke all over anyway..."
My kids will wear Target (even if I'm wearing Nordstrom) when they are young. I think it's pointless to buy little kids nice clothes. Target has cute baby clothes too!
#82rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 4:02am
I completely agree that the behaviour of today's children/preteens/teenagers is atrocious. Believe me, I've seen it first hand at every shopping mall/high school and truly understand the anger and frustration, but the generalization makes me feel sick. I'm a teenager living in a middle class suburb, and I am surrounded by prissy whiny brats who get whatever they ask for because the parents either A. Feel guilty about not being around for their...spawn and shower them with gifts to show their 'love', B. Feel threatened by said spawn and are afraid of the reaction they will get if, heaven forbid, they say no to the every whim of their child. Cell phones, iPods and the like are found on children as young as 10 in my area and are hideously misused. The world no longer orbits around the sun, but around certain American children/preteens/teenagers. Granted these people are a nightmare to behold, I believe there is something to be said for those of us who are not born with a silver spoon in our mouths.
Not every teenager is a spoiled product of too much MTV and technology who has Mummy and Daddy wrapped around their little finger. In my family, we are taught that gifts are for birthdays and Hanukkah. If we want to buy something else (i.e. cellphone, mp3 player, cds etc) we have to earn and save our money. Disrespect is not tolerated and is met with punishment that is equal to the severity of the bad behaviour. Good grades are met with a "Good Job", rather than $20 for each 'A' one receives. My siblings and I are raised to care about people, not possessions. The families of my friends are the same way. We all got summer jobs without connections from our parents and are saving the money we earn in the bank rather than spending it at the mall the first chance we get. I think that this will all come in handy when I have to venture out on my own and I must work for everything that I need or want. I know there are a lot of other teenagers like me out there who do not get everything set out for them and don't kick and scream into their cell phones when they don't get their way.
Re-reading this, it seems like I'm saying "Woo-hoo, look at me, I'm not a spoiled brat so praise me", but that is not the case. I just want to reinforce the point that not all people of the current generations are spoiled little snots who will go to produce even more spoiled little snots and dress them in little designer playsuits and let them behave as if the world is their own personal Montessori school and allow them to believe that they can do no wrong. No, some of us will continue to behave respectfully to our parents, hold open doors and use our manners and try to influence others to do then same, then try to raise our children to make this world a better place rather than add to the number of ungrateful kids who are so sensitive that if they aren't awarded for "Perfect Attendance" or lose a game of tag, will lose any self esteem they have.
I wish there was something that could be done about this problem. For now all I can do is always say please and thank you at all times and hope things will get better
#83rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 12:30pm
"Then there's the people at the bad baby name website who end up dubbing their kid Skylar Makinzy or some such thing because they're so busy trying to be "cool" and "unique" they forget the kid is going to have to deal with having their name pronounced by every new teacher they get until they graduate college."
That was me all throughout school. My parents wanted to give me a name that I wouldn't hear coming and going, and they sure succeeded. I've never met another person named Maris, and most people have no clue how to pronounce it.
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#84rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 12:36pmDoes it sound like "mare-is"?
"All the while making faces like a baby platypus who forget to take some Beano before eating a chimichanga." FindingNamo in reference to Jessica Simpson's singing.
#85rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 1:01pmYou got it! An acceptable alternate pronunciation is "Maah-ris."
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Di2
Broadway Star Joined: 11/18/04
#86rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 1:15pm
My HUGE problem with this generation, theatrically, is that they lack any sense of work ethic and knowledge of the hierarchy within the theatre atmosphere.
1. Giving other actors notes
2. Disrespcting elders and Artistic Staff
3. Constant fooling around onstage
4. Late for half hour and not signing in
5. Inability to leave personal issues offstage (i.e. Changing things onstage with other actors that they might be angry with that day)
It's so frustrating..
Who have all of these actors been training training with because whomever is training them is doing a sh*tty job..
Don't even get me started on inappropriate (or should I say, complete lack of knowledge of)audition protocol.
#88rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 3:08pm
*blushes at her lack of proofreading*
Oy. Yes, I know that's why earphones were invented. I feel like quite the young idiot now.
C'est la vie, I'm sure I sound smarter on other occasions.
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TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#89rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 3:28pm
lol, Sorry but that was on my mind ALL NIGHT last night and I had to post SOMETHING!
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#90rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 3:38pm
Smooch back, Diva!
I'm glad you pointed it out, I really am. We all type mistakes.
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#91rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:19pm
I'm 17 and, admittedly, this generation title describes just about all of my friends and myself perfectly. My internet was down for a week and I was pretty much shaking and drooling like a crack ho without her hit. The songs on my iPod went missing once and I started panicking and freaking out. I can't live without my cell phone. I have my own TV, DVD player, computer, digital camera, etc, much like all of my friends. Yes, we're spoiled, and I know it's bad. After reading all of these comments, I'm feeling a bit ashamed of this generation. However, I would consider myself a respectable person and in no way do I disrespect my elders or talk back or anything. I work hard in school, I help out at home, etc. The "all spoiled kids are brats" thing is a huge misconception.
#92rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/29/05 at 10:43pmAt my university this girl had her mommy sue the school because she got a D in her human sexuality course because she got a bad grade on her paper which was her final exam. She had the choice of going to a gay bar or an adult bookstore and comparing her observations to the course material or to do a research paper. Because she refused the go to the gay club or adult bookstore she claims that the professor descriminated against her. Her mom was on the news screaming about how this assignment was a total shock to her and her daughter (even though it was clearly stated in the course description that this would be involved) and that her daughter wrote an amazing paper and thus the professor had to have it out for her. The suit was thankfully dropped, but I think that it is sad how quickly her mother was to freak out over a grade for her daughter. Her daughter is supposed to be an adult, I mean she is in college, and she couldn't handle reading the course description before registering for a class? Of course it was a surprize because not only was it in the course description but the professors are required to read the syllabus on the first day of class and outline all papers and exams that will take place during the semester. She just wanted to throw a fit to get her way.
"All the while making faces like a baby platypus who forget to take some Beano before eating a chimichanga." FindingNamo in reference to Jessica Simpson's singing.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#93rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/29/05 at 11:37pmIf the course was required for her major she might have a case, but I doubt that's how it was.
UglyBug
Understudy Joined: 6/13/05
#94rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/29/05 at 11:46pm
"At my university this girl had her mommy sue the school because she got a D.."
How embarassing to have your mommy yell at the teachers when you are in college! I think college is high time when you need to learn to start defending yourself.
#95rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 1:08amIf I told my Mommy I got a bad grade in college she'd go "Well, maybe if you studied and did the work you'd do better. Welcome to college."
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#96rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 11:53amOne of my professors in college told us a story about a girl he'd had once who followed him around for a day after he gave her a B in his class. She kept insisting that he was ruining her GPA and was going to cause her to loose the HOPE Grant. She even had her mother call him. In the end he changed her grade and changed his grading process to as long as you come to class and do a decent final paper everyone gets an A. He said it just wasn't worth it and the real point is how much you learn in the class anyway.
#97rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 12:14pmAnd what did she learn? That if you drive someone nuts, you'll get what you want.
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#98rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 12:17pmI think he was just fed up. He was from Japan and had taught in France for a long time. He spent a lot of time telling us how much better the system is in France.
#99rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 12:28pmWhat does France have that we don't?
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Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#100rich, poor, these are considered surival basics
Posted: 6/30/05 at 12:35pm
To make a wild guess based on my limited knowledge of the European university system- kids choose their majors when they apply to the school and have to be accepted by their department(s). So there's a lot more specialization from the start.
Oh, and I think they have something called "Grandes Ecoles" (?), which are these extra-elite and selective schools for certain topics. Maybe that professor taught in one of those.
Of course, I could be totally wrong about that. :)
Updated On: 6/30/05 at 12:35 PM
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