I hope Dolly sticks around Broadway. She owns some really cool properties I think would make great shows. Thomas Shumacher should get Dolly and Julie Taymor to rework that project "A Few Good Ghosts."
Well "Ghosts" is a story about two people in Appalachia who fall in love after being brought together by ghosts that live in folk-art dolls. It was a very odd duck at Disney animation but the people that worked on the development loved it.
Her properties usually surround that "poor child grows up and does good" thing. Write what you know, you know?
I think people are taking offense to so much of what Brantley is saying because it hits too close to home, that is, it is very very accurate.
I agree with almost all of his points and his harsh criticisms of a show should not be something we didn't expect as he's done so in the past. If the fans of this show think the "feel good Musical" thing is enough to carry it, then it will be enough to advertise it word-of-mouth regardless of reviews.
I, for one, am tired of the notion that we need "fluff" on Broadway in order to escape the harsh realities of today. There were shows in existence during the Great Depression and the World Wars that don't deserve that moniker (Anything Goes, Kiss Me Kate, etc.) and there is a far delineation between what some consider to be classic musical theater masterpieces (albeit escapist treats for their era) and "9 to 5." What's more, a show doesn't have to be sequined-covered candy in order to provide escapism. I can just as easily lose myself in "August: Osage County" as I can watching "Carousel."
I love America. Just because I think gay dudes should be allowed to adopt kids and we should all have hybrid cars doesn't mean I don't love America.
[turns and winks directly into the camera]
- Liz Lemon (Tina Fey) on 30 Rock
I have no problems with "fluff" or "escapist theater" as long as it's done well. Recent examples would be Hairspray, The Producers, or Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
*shrug* It's unfortunate that the show wasn't received all that well. I personally really enjoyed it, had a GREAT time at opening last night, laughed pretty much nonstop. I didn't think it was mediocre at all. I thought the cast and performances (from Allison Janney and Marc Kudisch all the way down to the ensemble) were outstanding, the score was incredible, and SO catchy, and the book was witty, sharp, and clever. I am honestly stunned that these are the reviews this show brought in, but what are ya gonna do?
I think this'll be a big hit regardless, and definitely a best selling tour!
"I, for one, am tired of the notion that we need "fluff" on Broadway in order to escape the harsh realities of today. There were shows in existence during the Great Depression and the World Wars that don't deserve that moniker"
I don't think it's just escapism. I think it has everything to do with showing the money. If you lay down $120 for a ticket you better get at $120-looking-feeling-sounding-show.
I'm with SouthFLMarc and at times with Brantley, but there is a breakdown here in NYC between art and mass art. WE NEED TOURISTS. Producers have seen nothing but record box-office receipts in some of the darkest years politically and economically. As much as I wanna scream "Broadway is dead", it isn't,, infact it's probably more alive than ever. It's just smarter way of doing business.
The reason Ben Brantley comes off as a such a douche bag is because he's essentially a haughty gourmet critiquing McDonald's latest entree.
While I do have to agree with some criticsms, I also think Brantz n' Co have to admit that you're getting your money's worth with this show. 9 to 5 LOOKS like $120 a ticket.
I think bringing up that we "need tourists" is such a cop-out.
Broadway was not always a tourist attraction, as late as the early 80's shows were still frequented primarily by people from the tri-state area, matinee gray hair ladies and the out-of-towner business traveler. Times Square was not an attraction at that time and the shows were created for entertainment value but also as artistic achievements. To pander solely to the tourists is what will kill Broadway, or what has been slowly over the past few decades (specifically after the gentrification of Times Square in the Giuliani era). Look at the recent "flops" that people have considered to be artistic risks, then look at the reasons why many of them did not survive. [title of show], Grey Gardens, even GYPSY weren't recognizable enough for tourists to buy in to.
I'm not saying that "9 to 5" is the 4th horseman of the Broadway Apocalypse, but the movie>stage, dumbed down, Disney-fied, review-reliant, American Idol starring, stunt-casted, jukebox commodities just might be
I love America. Just because I think gay dudes should be allowed to adopt kids and we should all have hybrid cars doesn't mean I don't love America.
[turns and winks directly into the camera]
- Liz Lemon (Tina Fey) on 30 Rock
"my big question is, where is "withoutatrace" during this bloodbath? Most likely seeing something for the 10th time i assume."
So far, I have seen the show three times, and will likely be going back for a fourth and fifth time in May. I was out on a date last night (that ended this morning) so I am just getting around to reading the reviews now. I am very upset about Brantley's pan of the show (and his harsh comments on Stephanie Block which were completely uncalled for), but based on word-of-mouth that I have been hearing and based on the audience response for the show the three times I have seen it, I still think it will be a hit. I did think it deserved positive reviews, but I hope this doesn't put the cast in a bad mood. If audience reactions continue to be as positive as they were in previews, I'm sure the cast will still love performing in the show and enjoy their long run on Broadway.
"I can't imagine the Nominating Committee viewing the show with as much negativity as Brantley did. His review was so irrational, it can hardly be taken very seriously."
Thank you, Foster, for saying this. I agree that the Tony Nominating Committee will be much more generous with "9 to 5" than Brantley was, and I'm still hoping for nominations for Musical, Score, Book, Choreography, Sets, Janney, Hilty, Block, and Kudisch. I guess we'll find out on Tuesday morning...
"Broadway was not always a tourist attraction," But it is now Blanche, it is!
The history of Broadway has certainly had it share of artistic successes and artistic achievements. That said it cash is king. In the olden days songs were written just to show off singers. Shows were paint-by-number.
You mention the Bridge-and-Tunnel set, well sure they come but Broadway extends beyond the tri-state area now. Most of these musicals have legs (wheels) and have terrific traveling shows.
I think the bar should be high for shows but I completely understand why a Grey Gardens and Gypsy would turn people off.
Cash is ultimately king of Broadway NOT art. If you strip away all the glitz and celebrity casting you still pay $120 a ticket. That's a helluva lot of dough to spend on brick-walls and unknown talent. As much as I cringe to say it critics these days should critique the viability of shows rather than substance.
No, I'm pretty sure it's going to ruin their moods and you'll be able to see how miserable they are from this point on which will just ruin the performances for Tony voters and it might end up getting a special Tony for Saddest Ensemble.
Sorry, I was just trying to establish why I was completely absent from this thread last night, as I usually like to comment on review threads. (frankly though, I'm kind of glad I wasn't around to read these pans as they were happening)
Still, I fully support "9 to 5" and it will be interesting to see if these reviews have a negative effect on attendance. Updated On: 5/1/09 at 11:11 AM