A Chorus Line Lotto Rigged- Page 8

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 8:59pm

It's not forgettable at all. It's a carbon copy of the original, yes, but as a tribute to what a good show it was. The quality, however, is still stellar. I've seen it 6 times and it never gets old.

[popular_elphie]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 9:11pm

Before I rant, let me say that I was at ACL in late October. Alisan was trying the lotto, and she did not win.

So I'm not sure if they're rigged or not. However, if it is rigged, that is extremely unfair to those trying the lotto. Yes, you may be in a show and your family cannot afford the seats - neither can we! There are many options to get tickets to the show (including house seats, which us regular people do not get a chance at). Why can't these people go through as anyone else would? If they lose, they lose. Go buy the tickets on TKTS. It's not fair that you are practically guaranteed these cheap seats because your friend or family is in the show. Be like everyone else and if you don't win, deal with it.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 9:22pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha this thread is ridiculously fabulous

First of all SPECULATION SPECULATION SPECULATION one person saw a few cast members family get tickets and suddenly its all fixed and a huge conspiracy (god forbid they just happened to have been drawn fair and square!! thats not a story)

You should count yourselves lucky we don't get anything like this in the UK.

And even if they did decide to give a few of the tickets to cast members family(if you were the cast members family i bet your argument would be very different).

[mortega31686]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 9:23pm

Just to give you guys a heads up, I know this is about ACL but I just wanna say that not all lottery systems are rigged. I frequently try to win the Avenue Q lottery so much that the girl the does it knows me by name now. Back when I first started seeing the show in october, one of the stars was trying to get a ticket for his friend that was visiting so he put his name in the lotto and long story short, he didn't win so he ended up buying him a regular ticket. And even though the lottery girl knows us, 9 times out of 10 we still don't get tickets lol so I don't want to hear about ALL lottery's being rigged because I know Avenue Q isn't...then again, Ave. Q's lottery is done out in the street too lol.
-Mike

[winston89]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 10:03pm

This has nothing to do with how much cash the cast makes. This has to do with them rigging the lotto. In any show I can almost garuntee that the perso running the lotto knows who is in the cast and who they are. That being said, if Alisen Porter, Mari Davi, Heather Parcells signed up the person running the lotto would know who they are. And, because they are in the cast they are goiong to give them the tickets. I was at the RENT lotto a long time ago when Caren Olivio signed up with Matt Caplan. It was no shocker that Matt's name got called considering the fact that he is in the show.

the point that I am trying to make is that this hafs n othing to do with how much the actors made. If actors familyu was in town I am sure that every so oten no matter how much they spende on lessons and fees ect tnhey can buy thier family members a ticket.

Is it fair that the epople doing lotto are going to defenitally give ther cast nmember a ticket. Of course it is unfair. But, there isn't much you cvan do about it.

[C is for Company]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 10:06pm

Some people just don't care how or who gets it, they just want it to be their way.

[avab802]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 9:31am

Must be an only child. Give me a break. You didn't get a ticket.. no matter who got it.

broadwayguy2, I assume this was directed at me, since I was the original poster. I just got a chance to come back to the thread so I haven't read the whole thing yet.

I'm not complaining because I didn't get a ticket. I'm complaining because the contest was rigged. I have no problem with family/friends of the actors entering the lotto, as long as it's fair. If they want a guaranteed seat they should pay full price like the rest of us have to; if they want to pay $20, they should have to take their chances in a fair contest.

[ben4]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 9:46am

"It's a carbon copy of the original, yes, but as a tribute to what a good show it was."-bjh

Ehh, carbon copies don't thrill me. If I went to a restaurant and they gave me a carbon copy of what I had last night, I'd feel cheated.

Ultimately, ACL seems like a show that's been defrosted out of a microwave whereas Company and 110 In The Shade are gourmet meals specially prepared for their audiences.

[Kringas]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 10:02am

You didn't know it was a recreation when you attempted the lottery?

[Born To Reign]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 10:06am

But some of us are too young to have seen the original, legendary production. I, for one, relished the chance to see a meticulous recreation of a piece of Broadway history.

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 10:26am

Ben, why would you want to change something that's already perfect? Frankly, I just think you are making excuses now.

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 11:13am

I never saw the original production, but the revival is ... frankly, a little slow.

[JulianHookbucks]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 11:21am

When I lottoed for ACL, I was standing right next to Mara Davi who was waiting with her friend, and he didn't win... so sorry... theory proven wrong. :)

[ben4]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 11:40am

"You didn't know it was a recreation when you attempted the lottery?"

I kind of figured it wasn't exactly a John Doyle-esque reimagining, but I still would think that with a show that's so non-traditional in the first place it would be a shame if they had done nothing to distinguish the production.

Also, Chorus Line is really good, but I wouldn't call it perfection. The final number has been misinterpreted for years and some of the characters and their respective songs feel like they don't add much to the story (Specifically I've never really liked "I can do dat." It almost feels like he's saying one day he woke up and found out he could dance-- which isn't how it happens).

[JRybka]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 12:17pm

I can do dat? Ebonics works for you

[MyLife]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 1:06pm

Stop assuming the lotto is rigged. You have no proof. Just rants of the three times people witnessed cast members get called. Do you understand the lotto is done 8 times a week. You have all probably been at the lottos before with cast members, and the only reason you didn't notice was because they didn't win. The one time they DO win, you assume it's rigged? Believe it is rigged if it makes you feel better but don't try and turn others against it. And, please go ahead and protest the lotto. Don't sign up. Make my chances better.

I have also been at the lotto when Mike Cannon entered. He didn't win. What's your excuse this time? He is a cut dancer, so it doesn't count?


Updated On: 6/28/07 at 01:06 PM

[Wicked63]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 1:21pm

SongAndDanceMan i agree can you imagine this system in the UK? "Little Red Dots All Over The Pavement" The whole set up sounds like an incredible set up. Theres full price seats OK, theres the TKTS booth OK, theres rush seats OK- i cant keep up with the choices. Good luck to you guys but theatres in the UK wouldnt dream of this.

[lisa902652]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 1:48pm

I have a friend in ACL. I don't know if I would say lotto is rigged, but I do know that if someone in the cast or back stage would like a lotto ticket they just need to tell the girl who does the lotto in advance and they are saved a ticket.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 2:48pm

I think that the next time anyone goes to the ACL lottery and wins, they should refuse the ticket and scream at the top of their lungs that the lottery is rigged. Now that would be making a statement.

[MaronaDavies]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 3:17pm

You know, I'm outraged, not by the actors' actions, but FOR them. They shouldn't even need to try the lotteries. Broadway producers pull in a million a week on a show sometimes, and they're too cheap to give the performers some kind of discount on the tickets?! Geez. Most companies have some sort of employee discount, but not Broadway, it's bizarre...

As for the show being a carbon copy of the original, that's what I have heard. I never got to see the original either, though, and so I'm grateful to have the chance to see the recreation.

[Born To Reign]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 3:22pm

Wicked, why are you bemoaning the fact that so many Broadway shows offer myriad options for students and frugal theatregoers alike to enjoy the shows? Every time I've been to London, I've bought tickets for 20 Pounds at cheapest from some online site (I'm not even sure what the official outlets are) and had no choice of seating. I'd love to be able to see an extra show while I'm there, but there seems to be no rhyme or reason for how to get good seats cheap. At least here, I know there are many shows where I can sit front row for a fraction of the price whether it involves a lottery or waiting in line. Don't act like the UK is so much better because they would "never DREEEEEAAAAM" of holding a lottery for the general public.

[Wicked63]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 3:22pm

Producers! Free tickets for thier slaves! Hello?

[ILoveWicked330]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 5:25pm

Wow just saw this thread & don't have the patience to read all 8 pages but:
I did the lotto YESTERDAY with my friend. The same lady who has done it every time did it. She picked the names right infront of us & called the names INSIDE. It was by NO way fixed. She didn't even open up the names. She picked the 10 or so winners & gave the slip to the security guy. HE looked at them but obviously he couldn't do anything to fix it.
So maybe it could be fixed when a cast member wants tickets but I know yesterday 100000000% it was NOT fixed.

Edit::: There's also a thing called 'luck'...I'm just saying you never know. Because like it's been said, Ave Q usually has just 6 winners & when I played, my mom won first & my friend who we were with won right after her so we all got tickets. People could have said that was fixed but sometimes it's just pure luck.
Updated On: 6/28/07 at 05:25 PM

[jordangirl]

Posted: 6/28/07 at 5:29pm

Maybe it's only fixed if she knows someone doing it or possibly for cast members. All I know is the time I tried it first, the girl was NOT a cast member, but three of her family were picked IN A ROW after the woman doing the lottery folded those cards (and told everyone else to fold their own) then looked right at the girl and said "That gets all of you?" and when the girl nodded, the 4th card was put in the woman's pocket without even being unfolded.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 6/29/07 at 3:50pm

I wonder if the producers of the shows, or for that matter the owners of the theaters know about this.

No matter how you slice it, if the post a notice ANYWHERE that members of the public can read it saying they will pick winners in a lottery for tickets to the show, that is a form of advertising. If the lottery is rigged in any way, that is false advertising. If the producers turn a blind eye, that is conspiracy, if the owners of the theater know about it and don't stop it, that is aiding and abetting a fraud, perhaps collusion....

You see how a simple "favor" for a cast member could, should the State Attorney General choose to investigate, morph into a huge problem for theater owners and producers?

This is how the rigging scandals began in the 1950s in television game shows. So they slipped a few answers to contestants to zetz the ratings. Everyone thought it wasn't harming anyone, but it grew into a monster that destroyed careers.

Now, it is utterly common to see the "no family members of frends of any employee may participate" disclaimers all over every lottery in the country.

The same should apply here. There are not cheap tickets when sold at face value, so this may be more serious than some of you realize.