Alice Ripley takes the subway- Page 8

[Kelly2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 11:55am

"What I meant, Kelly, that in all our considerable combined experience, we seemingly haven't witnessed celebrities being harassed (for lack of a better word) in the manner that you have."

I would argue that while you certainly have more experience than I do, the fan culture of theatre and the obsessive need to document encounters and insert oneself into the lives of those they admire has become increasingly worse in the digital age. I personally have noted that people of my generation and younger have a much more entitled attitude in this regard than older folks I know. A friend currently starring in a show said recently to me how sad she feels it is that all people want when they encounter her, whether at stage door or not, is a photo or to somehow take something from the experience they can run and post online and how her encounters have become less and less about actual discussion of the show, her performance, or theatre in general, and more about obtaining something, which she finds as much more of an annoying nuisance than a simple compliment.

[billis2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 12:08pm

Kelly, you're picking the wrong celebrity as your poster child. Alice Ripley has devoted a lot of energy towards building a fanbase through personal interaction (online and otherwise).

Yes, there are a lot of crazies out there, but most people are not. The one crazy person can ruin your day, for sure, and sticks out in the mind. And some celebrities are famous enough that they probably can't walk a block without being stopped, which would get old really fast. But is it rude and tacky to say two sentences to an ensemble member of Once about how much I enjoyed the show? Most people like being complimented by non-crazies, who are respectful and know when to shut up. And most people are non-crazies who are respectful and know when to shut up.

That being said, there are plenty of people with poor social skills and American celebrity culture is weird. I like going to the stage door, but I will never understand the people who are literally hyperventilating because some celebrity is across the street when they just spent the last two hours watching the same celebrity on stage. I understand if you're actually going to meet them or see them up close, but you're not any closer to them than you were in the theater.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 12:10pm

And now you've introduced an entirely different angle to your previous argument, Kelly. Certainly a valid one, but it wasn't mentioned in any of your previous discussions - and it's an entirely different discussion.

Most fans are relatively sane, as the poster above me (and Reg, and John, and Whizzer, and others) have said. The loonies stick out.

I have a good friend whose name you would surely recognize, who was stalked by a fan for a while. That situation, while awful, was resolved, and this performer still very much enjoys fan interaction.



Updated On: 5/14/13 at 12:10 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 3:25pm

[deleted out of respect for Jane 2]







Updated On: 5/16/13 at 03:25 PM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 3:39pm

Oh, this is getting good.

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 3:39pm

.

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:39 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 3:53pm

[deleted out of respect for Jane2]



Updated On: 5/16/13 at 03:53 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 4:32pm

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 04:32 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 5:00pm

[deleted out of respect for Jane2 - but Jane, don't push me. You've been very nasty to me for no reason. Please don't do it again.]



Updated On: 5/16/13 at 05:00 PM

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 5:47pm

Draaah-mah!

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/14/13 at 5:53pm

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 05:53 PM

[someone.else's.story2]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 5:00pm

This thread is hilarious!! And, my favorite quote from the entire thread is by Kelly:

"They're ACTORS. It's their job to be fake".

Hahahahaha, oh my!

[veronicamae]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:14pm

Happening upon this thread tonight was one of the best things to happen all week.

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:43pm

>> "Happening upon this thread tonight was one of the best things to happen all week."

Eight pages worth of "why?"

[veronicamae]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 11:29pm

I'm dying to know the commercial Jane2 was in and how ghostlight knows her and why they have such issue with one another and find it appropriate to air their laundry here.

I'm also dying to know how Kelly2 expects people to not approach a celebrity (of any level) when they are out in public. Or perhaps she/you realize(s) this is an inevitability but its occurrence is something you personally disagree with because of your personal opinions which certainly cannot be proven to be that of every performer that has ever been stopped on the street to qualify that anyone else's differing opinion is wrong.

Jennifer Lawrence, arguably one of the biggest stars in the world right now, has said she will never (and has never, that I've heard/read) complained about being stopped on the street by fans because she realizes she chose a life that results in fame.

Fans can make or break an entertainer. I get that they have their own lives with places to be and people to see, but if they stop and engage rather than a quick smile and keep walking, they've made the [wise] choice to do so.

(I will concede if someone runs up to them, screams in their face, cries, tells them she is their 4th favorite Elphaba ever, and asks for 3 funny-face photos and 4 autographs, that is certainly excessive and cause for criticism.)

Also I just realized it's Jane2 and Kelly2. Coincidence?

[Kelly2]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 11:39pm

"I'm also dying to know how Kelly2 expects people to not approach a celebrity (of any level) when they are out in public."

Self control?

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 11:58pm

>> "I'm dying to know the commercial Jane2 was in and how ghostlight knows her and why they have such issue with one another and find it appropriate to air their laundry here."

Oh, Saints be praised!!!
MEEEEE TOOOOOO!
(I just didn't want to stir the hornet's nest...!)

I am DYING to see a clip of, or know the product Jane2 represented in her commercial. (All the rest I can overlook... Been there, done that!)

[Rainbowhigh23]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 12:00am

I'm taking the subway to see Alice in New Haven this weekend! Well, Metro North, but still the MTA.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 3:52am

Quite simply, veronicamae, Jane2 started up some very old business that she found appropriate to air here, even though she could not fully recall the details. I offered to delete all my posts if she deleted her attacks on me, which is what happened. The rest, though I understand your curiousity, is no one's business.

[billis2]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 6:47am

Self-control? What's that? And can you tell those actors up on stage to keep it down? I can barely hear my friend on the phone.

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 9:28am

The reason I deleted my posts is because I saw I was entertaining the troops with my personal business and that's the only reason.

done.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 9:36am

"Fans can make or break an entertainer. I get that they have their own lives with places to be and people to see, but if they stop and engage rather than a quick smile and keep walking, they've made the [wise] choice to do so."

You know, that is not an uncommon argument.

And I think it's a self-serving one, concocted by the fans in order to justify the time they spend being fans and their behavior. It creates a sense of importance where there really shouldn't be any.

[broadway guy]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 9:42am

Who cares if she takes the subway. What is the big deal?

[newintown]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 9:50am

"I'm also dying to know how Kelly2 expects people to not approach a celebrity (of any level) when they are out in public."

I certainly don't expect people not to do it, but I also would never do it myself - I'm one of those New Yorkers who thinks that's just tacky middle-class tourist behavior. Call me elitist, but we all have standards, and that's one of mine.

I just don't see how anyone's life is enriched by talking to someone they don't know as if they do know them, just because they've seen them in a show or movie. The celebrity definitely isn't going to remember them (unless they're remarkably crazy), and what's the point of an exchange where you both don't remember each other?

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/16/13 at 10:15am

I agree with Newintown, especially that fawning over a celeb is tourist, star struck behavior. That's fine for some folk, but I don't want to appear that way.

I have complimented actors on occasion, but only if we're working together in some capacity and the topic comes up.