Have you noticed many of the big sellers have been putting up huge numbers without selling out? That's been part of the issue with new shows not gaining momentum they can't even count on picking up some run off from the popular hits, you can always get a ticket for a popular show - at a price - but a seat can be had so why take a chance on something new? Too much inventory is not a good thing sometimes.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
I really want SideShow to do well, but these numbers don't look good.
Ship, SS and OTT may not last past the 1st of the new year unfortunately as tourists are just not interested in seeing these shows!
Even though Honeymoon has not opened as it's in previews but WOW would have thought the name alone would at least interest people but unfortunately not as the box office is terrible.
What's happening...too much inventory?
Last Ship will make it until the 10th, which is how long Sting is in it...
Last Ship will make it until the 10th, which is how long Sting is in it...
Yes box office should pickup with STING but babye when he leaves it then the Ship sinks.
ON THE TOWN is making money right now. Yet their capacity is terrible. They should really consider closing off the 2nd balcony and adjusting their ticket prices for the rear orchestra & mezzanine. Right now all seats in the orchestra & mezz are $147!!!
"That's been part of the issue with new shows not gaining momentum they can't even count on picking up some run off from the popular hits, you can always get a ticket for a popular show - at a price - but a seat can be had so why take a chance on something new?"
Just curious then how you explain why The River, Elephant Man, Curious Incident and It's Only a Play are doing so well. People seem to be having no problem taking a chance on them even though they are new.
The answer of course, is if you give people a story, music or a star (ideally all 3) they really want to see, they will come. If you insist on bringing back a show that even with some tweaking, good reviews and the fact that it's a BWW darling, the general public has for the most part already told you they are not that interested in seeing, then be disappointed when it draws poorly but don't be surprised. And yet another 20-30 year old, mostly forgotten movie made into a musical headlined by a guy whose popularity peaked in the late 1980's? How could that not be a smash?
Last Ship will make it until the 10th, which is how long Sting is in it...
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When you give away the reason why a statement *might* be humerous....it really deflates the joke and/or the attempt at acerbic humor.
I'm going to pretend that Ms NeNe Leakes has EVERYTHING to do with those numbers.
Nice holiday bump for IF/THEN! I just hope it lasts through everyones contract...
"When you give away the reason why a statement *might* be humerous....it really deflates the joke and/or the attempt at acerbic humor."
If that was for me, I wasn't trying to say anything humorous. I was just saying a previous posters prediction it wouldn't close before Sting's run was incorrect.
Holy crap, The Illusionists did better than more than half of the shows on Broadway could dream of! How?? I didn't even know if began previews, yet here it is, with those numbers none the less!
Holy crap, The Illusionists did better than more than half of the shows on Broadway could dream of! How?? I didn't even know if began previews, yet here it is, with those numbers none the less!
Right!?
Well, TOURISTS...that's what they want to see and all the hotel concierges and ticket agents are promoting the hell out of it!
I love magic shows, but I wasn't expecting The Illusionists to do so well out of the gate, so I kept checking the website to see if any good tickets would open up, or if the premiums would convert to regular, etc., and instead of converting to regular, the premiums just kept disappearing.... crazy.
Updated On: 12/2/14 at 01:09 AM
If Side Show closes on January 4, the day the Hilton Sisters died and the same day the original closed, I suggest the next revival open in the spring!
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Producers & Creatives take note but lets hope things turn around for SS so start marketing to those tourists and find an audience for this show!!!
Bob's doing some truth telling in this thread.
The Illusionists uses non-equity dancers. strange.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/2/14
Im still baffled that I've yet to see a single ad for Side Show during American Horror Story: Freak Show, seems like a no brainer....
It's beyond a stretch to say that someone putting down money to see Bradley Cooper in "The Elephant Man" a move star in a 35 year old hit play, or Nathan, Matthew, Stockard, et al in "It's Only a Play" are 'taking chances.'
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
Sting has brought in significant advance sales already, which can make up for these bad weeks. Don't count them out yet.
I don't understand how If/Then can be down almost 7% but up over 100K - is that red supposed to be black?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
^ The 7% is the attendance number. There were 7% fewer people but they paid more.
Ahh, thanks! I guess the difference is maybe the comped tickets for when Idina was out the prior week?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
That's certainly part of it, but the gross jump is significant-- mostly because these tickets were probably bought in advance by out of towners for the holiday week who paid more than the TDF and similar discounts.
Eta: Just looked again. This week's avg ticket price for If/Then was $95, compared to $70 the prior week
Updated On: 12/2/14 at 09:54 AM
"The Illusionists uses non-equity dancers. strange."
Not really. The show would almost certainly not fall under Equity jurisdiction. They're probably AGVA/AGMA, like at Radio City.
If they're not making money then they're the wrong shows, in the wrong places, at the wrong prices.
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