Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 12/31/17- Page 2

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 8:48pm

It's a nice show but as we have rehearsed in previous threads, not likely to gain a foothold. 

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 8:52pm

One of the bigger stories here but as of yet overlooked is that DEH did over $2.1 million in only eight performances. To gross that much in a theater that size is truly astounding. It wasn’t that long ago that we were all agog when Hamilton first cracked the $2 million mark. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 8:57pm

It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly.

[trpguyy]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 9:19pm

bdn223 said: "[The Play That Does Wrong]They now have a cast of13 very green actors I assume most of which are getting tier equity rates."

Why would you assume the impossible? A Broadway show pays (at least) Broadway minimum.

[Dancingthrulife2]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 9:52pm

HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Survive? Likely. Thrive? Well... Just take a look at Donna's performances and they don't seem to do well enough compared to Bette's.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 10:14pm

trpguyy said: "bdn223 said: "[The Play That Does Wrong]They now have a cast of13 very green actors I assume most of which are getting tier equity rates."

Why would you assume the impossible? A Broadway show pays (at least) Broadway minimum."

Don’t Disney and the non profits have a different minimum? I know the play that goes wrong doesn’t apply to either of those, but there’s more than one broadway minimum.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 10:21pm

the non-profits have a lower scale (on a LORT contract, not the Broadway contract, for the initial subscription run of shows in their own houses. that's it and, as you say, irrelevant here.

[bdn223]

Posted: 1/2/18 at 10:36pm

trpguyy said: "bdn223 said: "[The Play That Does Wrong]They now have a cast of13 very green actors I assume most of which are getting tier equity rates."

Why would you assume the impossible? A Broadway show pays (at least) Broadway minimum."

I did not mean that it they cant spend less on their cast, but if they are already paying the equity minimum of $1800 a week to all cast members. Would going OFF-Broadway and pay each cast member $1000 a week, saving $10k, really make up the money lost in cutting their maximum ticket price from $160 to $120 and their maximum total seats in half per performance. This isnt a 39 Steps where there is essentially no overhead, or Peter and the Starcatcher where they jumped from name talent on Broadway to a cast of green actors in the Off Broadway transfer. 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 12:28am

Paying the cast is the least of their worries. It's all the other things - Broadway real estate, etc. 

[schubox]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 1:34am

HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Has it for sure? Have we gotten to the point where the tickets sold were put up after Ben’s departure date was announced?

[chuckydisc]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 7:14am

HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Lest we forget these weeks were already sold (out) BEFORE Ben's departure date announcement.

Have there been future allotments of DEH sold yet AFTER the announcement yet?  I don't know, does anyone?

 

[Rainah]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 7:47am

And the price already lower and the tickets much easier to get. With Hamilton, after the OBC left prices went up

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 8:56am

I wasn't really comparing it to Hamilton. Nothing can be. But I get the sense people are going to see the show rather than people as they go to see Hamilton, and this period with multiple replacements is conditioning future audiences that way. The unspoken comparison was (e.g.) Comet, and then I was pondering what Dolly might look like. 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 9:29am

"As someone who applied for Harry Potter seats and never got to the buying point -- and who now has to register again -- I doubt that Harry Potter is going to impact it negatively.  "

My entire family tried for tickets and like you never got to the buying point. We will be going to London in December for a week later this year. We figured we would try to see if there were seats available for when we were there and we got them !!

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 9:34am

"I think the biggest story here is that The Play that Goes Wrong sold over 100% of their gross potential, and it may actually become the first non spectacle/star driven long running running play Broadway has seen in since the 39 Steps and August Osage County. War Horse and Curious Incident are both stage adaptions, and at least in my opinion were more spectacle "unique" theatrical events then traditional plays. 

 I have a friend in the cast who posted that they had their first sold out performance of their entire run last week, and for a show that been running on fumes and word of mouth for the past 9 months I can only imagine the joy its creators and producers must feel. "

 

I saw it the first time in London a couple of years ago and had great time. I really did not expect it to have long run on Broadway and I am thrilled it is still running. My wife and I went again last April when we flew into NY for her birthday and made it to Times Square area about 1:30 pm. We thought what could we possibly get tickets for at box office that late and our hotel was on the same block.  We got a couple of $30 seats in the balcony and had a bunch of laughs again.

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 10:17am

chuckydisc said: "HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Lest we forget these weeks were already sold (out) BEFORE Ben's departure date announcement.

Have there been future allotments of DEH sold yet AFTER the announcement yet? I don't know, does anyone?

Just for fun, I did a ticket search for a random Tuesday night in mid September, and there were very few tickets available. Just a handful in the orchestra and some in the rear far sides of the mezzanine. So I think that pretty much supports what Hogan says. I mean, this is nine months away in one of the typically slowest times of the year. 

 

 

[chuckydisc]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 10:44am

RaisedOnMusicals said: "chuckydisc said: "HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Lest we forget these weeks were already sold (out) BEFORE Ben's departure date announcement.

Have there been future allotments of DEH sold yet AFTER the announcement yet? I don't know, does anyone?

Just for fun, I did a ticket search for a random Tuesday night in mid September, and there were very few tickets available. Just a handful in the orchestra and some in the rear far sides of the mezzanine. So I think that pretty much supports what Hogan says. I mean, this is nine months away in one of the typically slowest times of the year."

When did those September seats go on sale?

 

[bdn223]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 11:25am

chuckydisc said: "RaisedOnMusicals said: "chuckydisc said: "HogansHero said: "It's also worth noting that, like Hamilton, DEH nimbly survived the departure of its supposed star attraction. There will be a third chapter (that hasn't been written yet) with Dolly."

Lest we forget these weeks were already sold (out) BEFORE Ben's departure date announcement.

Have there been future allotments of DEH sold yet AFTER the announcement yet? I don't know, does anyone?

Just for fun, I did a ticket search for a random Tuesday night in mid September, and there were very few tickets available. Just a handful in the orchestra and some in the rear far sides of the mezzanine. So I think that pretty much supports what Hogan says. I mean, this is nine months away in one of the typically slowest times of the year."

When did those September seats go on sale?

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I remember in the Hamilton Documentary, Lin Manuel Miranda made a joke that he before Hamilton became a ziegiest musical he thought it would at least run a year as you could easy sell a show about the founding fathers to school groups, compared to In The Heights about 3 days in the lives of a group of people in Washington Heights. The same could be said of Dear Evan Hansen. It should and likely is an easy sell to school and teenage community groups based on the subject matter alone.  Just on their face value a teacher would have a much easier time selling the principal/school board on a trip to see Dear Evan Hansen, a show that deals with the aftermath to teen suicide, bullying, cyber bullying, and the consequences of social media misuse, then Hello Dolly. A show that despite being a beloved classic, its essentially about a matchmaker conning a rich man into falling in love with her all the while preaching the values of socialism, and some of the ugly aspects of capitalism. I don't mean to get into a political discussion on Hello Dolly, if you'd like I could send you my senior thesis from back in the day on how it and Wall-E are Marxist allegories. 

 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 12:38pm

ACL2006 said: "THE PLAY THAT GOES WRONG currently has tickets on sale through March 11. At this point if that's going to be their closing date, is it even possible for a new show to come in and open by the Tony cut-off? Are there still shows rumored to be looking for a theater for the Spring?"

It’s now on sale until July! https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/More-Chances-to-Catch-the-Disaster-PLAY-THAT-GOES-WRONG-Now-on-Sale-Through-July-1-20180103

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 1:01pm

chuckydisc said: "When did those September seats go on sale?"

I don't know and don't care enough to check but I seriously doubt that many people buying tickets before whenever the Platt announcement was made were laboring under the impression he would still be in the show in Sept '18. If you want to believe that, be my guest.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 1:19pm

And let's be honest:  MOST people seeing it have little care who is playing it -- until they get an understudy slip.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 3:29pm

Excellent numbers but much of that is expected with extra show for a bunch of musicals and the holiday season. The next two or three weeks should be interesting for a bunch of shows.

[schubox]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 6:00pm

HogansHero said: "chuckydisc said: "When did those September seats go on sale?"

I don't know and don't care enough to check but I seriously doubt that many people buying tickets before whenever the Platt announcement was made were laboring under the impression he would still be in the show in Sept '18. If you want to believe that, be my guest."

You’d be surprised how little some people know of how Broadway works. My cousin was asking whether he thought it was worth it to take his daughter to Hamilton and was shocked when I told him the OBC was long gone. This conversation happened a few weeks ago 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/3/18 at 11:25pm

Your attempt to discredit the validity and legitimacy of DEH as a bonafide, mainstream hit is falling flat. Real hard. Try better next time. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/4/18 at 8:54am

schubox said: "You’d be surprised how little some people know of how Broadway works. My cousin was asking whether he thought it was worth it to take his daughter to Hamilton and was shocked when I told him the OBC was long gone. This conversation happened a few weeks ago"

Actually I don't doubt it at all. (I also suspect that the same person would not be able to conjure up the name Leslie Odom Jr or even LMM. Or Ben Platt. And I also suspect they are not buying tickets for next September. Finally, I think most folks who actually buy tickets to these shows in the primary market know more than your cousin does, for the simple reason that one has to know more to avoid getting aced out.)