There are SOOO many B'way shows listed on TDF, that can't be as good as one would hope.
ANYTHING GOES
THE COLUMNIST
DON'T DRESS FOR DINNER
THE GERSHWINS' PORGY AND BESS
GHOST, THE MUSICAL
GODSPELL
HOW TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS
THE LYONS
OTHER DESERT CITIES
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE
VENUS IN FUR
This might be a dumb question but is TDF and TKTS the same thing? Also, how good are the discounts at TKTS?
Excellent numbers for Once!!! Nice to see Ghost, Nice Work & Sister Act doing good as well.
They are run by the same organization (Theater Development Fund).
TKTS....is day of sales only, open to anyone as long as you are willing to stand in line and take your chances.
TDF is limited membership, that you pay for annually giving you much better discounts than tkts and you cann get tix in advance...but not often FAR in advance. You do need to qualify for membership, however.
There is a thread far down on this page giving more detail.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/16/06
Wicked is in no danger of closing anytime soon, it recouped a long time ago and anything that make beyond running costs is profit, with summer coming up, it should be back to making the big bucks.
Mary Poppins isn't doing great but it'll make money during the summer so Disney can afford for it to have a few quiet weeks,
Evita will likely recoup this year or early next, not sure what their budget is but it can't be more than $10-11m, Newsies and Once will also recoup within the next seven months.
Since when is $1.5 million "bad"? haha
^It isn't and it's still making tons of money with 1.5 million per week. I think the posts about Wicked started as a joke but some missed the boat.
Chorus Member Joined: 4/26/12
It doesn't look like Priscilla is doing to well
At the rate Newsies is going it should likly recoup before the tonys or at latest July...im guessing its running costs at around $500,000-600,000 and it has been publicly stated it cost only $5 million. Idk if we will get an announcement though, because Disney said in their recoupment announcement for Poppins that the only reason they made the announcement was because Cameron Makintosh wanted them too and that they did not plan to make recoupment annoucements in the future
Updated On: 5/14/12 at 09:04 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/16/06
I do wonder whether the $5m cost is true as something like In The Heights cost $10m but the show doesn't have any special effects, the set's fairly simple and there are very little costume changes.
I imagine Disney will announce when it recoups just for bragging rights.
Leading Actor Joined: 5/1/09
Obviously Wicked is going nowhere, but this is the first crack I've seen in it's numbers. I know on a $$ basis, it's very high, but this week's % capacity is the lowest the show has ever had. In it's entire run.
I know % capacity isn't as important as % of gross potential, but it could be symbolic of something. Perhaps Wicked is in danger . . .of just being another blockbuster, instead of THE blockbuster.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
"1.2 million. (12 mill in a week would be awesome!)"
I did not notice that I left out the period. MY BAD!
Swing Joined: 12/30/10
Wicked suffers from a location problem. Whereas Lion King is smack in the middle of Times Square, Wicked, the biggest blockbuster, is out of view on 8th avenue. Before, crowds sought out the show. Now they need to find a way to bring them to 50th Street. TKTS won't happen for a long time still. During summer and the holidays, Wicked is still at the top.
Book of Mormon doesn't have this problem, because it is THE show to see.
Wicked should have moved to the Marquis or the Palace and settled in for another 20 years.
Wicked can move to the Marquis in about 5 years or so. It's doing just fine at the Gershwin.
Location has nothing to do with it. Location may help a very casual tourist who just happens to be wandering around Times Square but the vast majority of theatregoers - especially for the big blockbusters - buy their tickets very far in advance. Wicked, The Lion King, The Book of Mormon, and all the major blockbusters have almost all tickets sold several months out. I can guarantee you no one considers the location of a theatre when deciding on a show months out. Besides, since Wicked has been (and regardless of what is still a stellar week - still is) a blockbuster that people will buy tickets for months in advance. The Broadway Theatre is a couple blocks farther north and its been the theatre for the original productions of Les Mis and Miss Saigon.
The Marquis has been notorious for flops which is just more evidence that shows your theory holds no water. Again, that doesn't demonstrate that anything about the Marquis is bad. It does show that there's little to no correlation between the location of the theatre and the success of a show. If you want to talk about size of a theatre (number of seats) then you have a much better argument as I think that can certainly make a huge difference.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/16/06
The Marquis has had successful shows like Me and My Girl, Annie Get Your Gun, Drowsy Chaperone and now Evita, people will go to a show regardless of the theatre or its location, The Minskoff had its fair share of flops before Lion King moved there.
^That was my point. I didn't mean to suggest that the Marquis was a bad theatre and that no shows were successful. I was just saying that location is irrelevant as the Marquis has had plenty of flops and a lot of successes as has just about every theatre on Broadway.
Glad to see a bump for GHOST this week.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/29/12
Wonder if Rachel Potter's Twitter blast about her EP will bump sales this week at Evita.
Stand-by Joined: 3/29/11
Newsies will not recoup by the tonys or probably even in 2012. Book of Mormon did not recoup for 9 months and they had about a 10 million dollar investment.
Is there any way Newsies can continue past the limited engagement?
sopranobiz, I think most people are expecting they'll announce an open-ended run sooner rather than later.
@Bwaydreamer
Newsies cost half of what Mormon did only $5 million and it also has a much simpler and smaller set will a less aggressive advertising campaign, and is doing as a little less than what Mormon did Pre-Tony awards...it will most certainly recoup before the end of the summer...why else would Disney only have it run through the summer if it couldn't recoup?
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