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#26

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

EJ24642 said: "Stage Door Sally said: "I may have missed it, but do we know if Hello, Dolly! recouped?"

I don't think so, since there was no official announcement like there was for The Boys in the Band
"

It recouped last year and there was an official announcement or at least people were talking about it on here.

#27

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

Stage Door Sally said: "I may have missed it, but do we know if Hello, Dolly! recouped?"

Word on the street is DOLLY recouped, but not during Bette’s initial run, which was surprising. It supposedly recouped in March or April after Bernadette began performances. Rudin did not announce recoupment.

#29

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

bwayrose7 said: "Spongebob was always a "weird" idea and was never presented as anything but. Creative, yes, but too weird for too many people. Tourists with kids picked brands that they already knew inside and out, and not enough adults wanted to take a neon-colored nostalgia trip. Pretty Woman may be deeply, fundamentally mediocre, but by the time you know that, you've already paid for it - or you weren't looking for creativity in the first place, just a rehash of a movie you loved."



^ This, plus Spongebob struggled to find an audience that was willing to pay face value for tickets. It didn’t really appeal to young kids (ergo families with young kids). When I went, the kids around me seemed bored out of their minds. Also. It doesn’t appeal on a mass level to ticket-buying adult females or couples. Even though I’m a gay man who had a gay old time at Spongebob, I’m also not sure this automatically appeals to a large gay audience. The audience for the tv show consisted of people who were kids when it first debuted and people who liked to get stoned to it as young adults (there may be some overlap here). I’m not sure how many of these tv viewers are in the same pool as Broadway patrons. It’s kind of how a book can be a mega-bestseller and the movie adaptation can fizzle at the box office even if well done. The Kite Runner comes to mind.

Maybe because I just watched the episode of CNN’s The History of Comedy devoted to animation, but it also just occurred to me that because of how crudely Spongebob the tv cartoon was drawn, many people automatically dismissed the Broadway show as something that was going to be amateurish.

Look, I loved the show more than I expected. In fact, I know it’s sacrilege, but I loved it more than My Fair Lady and Once on This Island during my June trip. I’m not saying this is a classic like those shows, but all the parts (music, book, direction, sets, acting) seemed cohesive. BUT...I was an early naysayer about Spongebob from the time I heard about it and it was only because I was willing to stay open-minded and do my research (reading reviews, following BWW threads, look at videos released by the production) that I decided to purchase a ticket. Most Broadway patrons, especially tourists, are not going to do that much work to overcome initial prejucudes against a show.

Conversely, Pretty Woman is a beloved movie property that will appeal to a wider demographic (women, couples, gay men, etc.) and people who may have found the notion of Spongebob too silly. It most probably has a higher postive name recognition reaction among tourists. And it probably is perceived as higher quality than Spongebob (mainly because of the animation - it’s not Disney - of Spongebob) although one could argue rather convincingly that the writing of Spongebob is superior. Having said all that, I have no interest at this time in Pretty Woman. But that doesn’t matter. I think it’s gonna be a “hit” at least on the level of Anastasia (which has it recouped?). Only time will tell if it can sell long enough to recoup.

Updated On: 8/13/18 at 06:16 PM

#30

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

Call_me_jorge said: "Okay. Hold up. Am I the only one who finds it strange that Pretty Woman is exceeding expectations, but Spomgebob is struggling to find any kind of audience? Like sure spongebob might not be Shakespeare, but at least it has some sort of imagination."

I think it’s much too early to say that Pretty Woman is exceeding expectations. I’m sure that it built up a decent advance based on the fondness for the movie. But word of mouth will either turn the show into a success or not. So check back around mid October, early November, to see how it’s doing then.


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#31

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

natashalost said: "According to her website, Abby Mueller will be playing Carole King from August 7, 2018 to December 30, 2018.

In case anyone wanted a projected closing date for the show,December 30, 2018 seems like the likely option.
"

They should’ve done a shorter run, especially since Jessie is going to be free sooner than we thought...


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#32

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

Call_me_jorge said: "Okay. Hold up. Am I the only one who finds it strange that Pretty Woman is exceeding expectations, but Spomgebob is struggling to find any kind of audience? Like sure spongebob might not be Shakespeare, but at least it has some sort of imagination. "

_Jorge:

Even mentioning Spongebob and Shakespeare in the same phrase is something like desperately and pathetically attempting to compare Gilbert and Sullivan to Barnum & Bailey's.

Like sure?

#33

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

I guess all the hype from Whoopi Goldberg for "Head Over Heels" on THE VIEW (July 30-August 3) didn't help at all. Maybe everyone didn't follow her advice, and ended up reading the reviews first?

#34

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There seems to be a higher than normal amount of wrongheaded posts in this thread this week, and that's saying a lot.

And then there are some intelligent posts as well.

Anastasia is fine, Summer is fine.

The twin flops of forty fourth street are in flames.

No one has to announce recoupment. If you have to ask about Dolly, you don't need to know.

OOTI is trudging only if trudge means to lose money consistently and keep on performing.

It's great that everyone can have opinions but you can't have opinions about facts. If you don't know something you can't make it up and not get called out.

#36

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MarkBearSF said: "Am I correct that Anastasia has not recouped? Any guesses of its nut?"

I don't know and I don't know. But let's guess and say $700k over 71 frames. That would mean (ballpark) $50mil out and $70mil in. That's $20mil and after everything is paid gets you close.

#37

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

HogansHero said: "
It's great that everyone can have opinions but you can't have opinions about facts. If you don't know something you can't make it up and not get called out."

How does The White House or Fox News get away with it? Facts use to be Facts but sad to say those days seem to have faded away.

But I do agree with your facts HH. :)


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Updated On: 8/13/18 at 10:09 PM

#39

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 8/12/18

Huss417 said: "HogansHero said: "
It's great that everyone can have opinions but you can't have opinions about facts. If you don't know something you can't make it up and not get called out."

How does The White House or Fox News get away with it? Facts use to be Facts but sad to say those days seem to have faded away.
"

What did that Trumpette woman say? "Alternative facts"?


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#40

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raddersons said: "ThisForbes article seems to show that Dolly has recouped."

Thanks for that!

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