Bruce Springsteen - special Tony Award disgust — Page 2

PThespian said: "I can’t speak for all the Unions, but I can tell you that the Front of House staff gets paid for eight shows a week even though it doesn’t play that many.

If it’s similar for the other unions that might help explain part of the reason why ticket prices are so high."

Not working in the industry, it wouldn't even occur to me that the staff at the Kerr were being adversely affected by Springsteen's lighter performance schedule, but I'm glad to hear that doesn't appear to be the case.

I'm sure that's not the main reason I was paying $400 a ticket for mezzanine seating but at least the profits from those crazy high ticket prices are getting spread around a little.

BroadwayRox3588 said: "I just love when threads get thrown out of whack and off-topic by the person who started the thread"

If you look back you’ll find this isn’t solely the case. I’m only directly responding to the posts of others in this thread.


But yes to try and get us back on track: the main issue isn’t Bernadette not winning awards - if it wasn’t Bernadette it could be someone else. I am obviously just being over dramatic. The issue is Bruce winning the award he did. Why?

Updated On: 6/17/18 at 02:47 PM

TotallyEffed said: "Don’t bother arguing with this delusional, hateful person. Not worth it!

DELUSION!"

I don't think qolbinau's views on religion are delusional. Believing that one can talk to ghosts in the sky, however, is completely delusional.

Springsteen has always told a ton of stories on every tour he's ever done, that's why his show runs for like 5 hours.

CT2NYC said: "I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this.Springsteen on Broadwayis highly acclaimed and wildly successful Broadway show that doesn't fit into any of the competitive Tony catergories. Why doesn't he deserve an award for it? I bought $75 tickets to see it in September, but, judging from Bruce's Tony performance, it strikes me as far more theatrical than I expected. I'm excited to see it in its entirety."

Merely flipping the question at hand is a pretty weak response. In any case, I've offered an argument above as to why I don't think he deserved a Tony, though I am open to revising my view in light of some well-reasoned response.

A Director said: "Here's the list of Special Tony Award from 1947 to now.

https://www.tonyawards.com/en_US/history/pastwinners/tonys_results.html?fname=&lname=&show=&award=Special+Tony+Award&year=Year&year=All#1"

In that context, Mr. and Mrs. Ira Katzenberg might have received the most questionable special Tony Award. It looks like they got one in 1947 for what sounds like just being enthusiastic audience members. Which also means either they weren't taking the Tonys seriously enough in 1947, or we're taking them way too seriously now.

i saw springsteen on broadway twice

it was one of the most compelling theatre experiences ive ever had. A story based artist capturing the magic, thrills and pain of growing up, discovering himself and his gifts, and sharing them with the audience through stories and song. passionate, emotive and brilliantly executed.

It absolutely deserved the special Tony, and if it also had the effect of drawing some theatre newbies in for the show and the tony awards, fantastic.

qolbinau said: "So let me get this straight. Bruce Springsteen usesBroadway as a rental agency - charging obscene amounts of money for some concerts and taking up some prime Broadway real estate in the process - and then get rewarded a Tony Award?

Meanwhile, Bernadette - a genuine Broadway star - doesn't get nominated for Follies. And receives nothing for her amazing replacement performances in A Little Night Music and Hello Dolly. This is bull****!

#givethetonysbacktoBroadway"



Speak with Jordan Roth ...he was instrumental in bringing this to Broadway at the Walter Kerr.

Don't Miss this once in a lifetime experience with the Bruce! Extended till 12/15/18

https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpringsteenBroadway?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbroadway.news%2F2018%2F03%2F21%2Fspringsteen-staying-broadway-dec-15%2F

https://brucespringsteen.net/broadway/

Updated On: 6/17/18 at 10:56 PM

I think the gay Muslims being oppressed in practically every single Islamic country and community on this earth because of religious theology is enough to justify criticism towards Islam, or as you might insidiously call ‘Islamophobia’. I am not ashamed for actually caring about ALL gay people. Not just when it’s politically convenient to do so.

If you actually are interested in understanding the victims of Islam I suggest you follow a link to some of those pages, go and look at the Pew research center statistics, head to the reddit page for ex-Muslims, and go and take a look at some of the core theology. Don’t come here as a puppet to the religious right and offer nothing to the conversation if you apparently want to talk about it. It’s depressing to watch this mindless conservatism at play.

Updated On: 6/18/18 at 03:20 AM

Religious affiliation - unlike race, sex, or sexual orientation - is a choice, and it is therefore valid to consider it when judging other people. Though there surely are reflexive anti-Muslim bigots, reasoned criticism of Islam is not bigotry, any more than criticizing the Republican Party is bigotry.

Muslim belief has often led to oppression of, and violent acts towards, women and LGBT people. This is also true of other belief systems, of course, but today the worst of these atrocities are indeed committed at the hands of those who profess Islam in places where Muslims have significant political power.

There are more than a billion Muslims and I know that most of them do not support such violence. However, the choice to align oneself with a philosophy that is connected with such violence is not a neutral one. Just as I would use membership in the Republican Party as one factor in sizing someone up, so I would use the choice to affiliate with an anti-LGBT religion. (I am quite certain that some religious people judge me negatively for my atheist beliefs, and that too is fair game.)