COVID Alert NY App

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 3/4/22 at 10:36pm

Anyone that has visited a Nederlander house since Broadway reopened: do you just have to download the app and activate closeness sensing and COVID alerts? Do they check this before you enter the theatre?

Just curious. Shubert and Jujamcyn do not ask those 18+ to download this app.

Updated On: 3/4/22 at 10:36 PM

[Fosse76]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 10:47am

EDSOSLO858 said: "Anyone that has visited a Nederlander house since Broadway reopened: do you just have to download the app and activate closeness sensing and COVID alerts? Do they check this before you enter the theatre?

Just curious. Shubert and Jujamcyn do not ask those 18+ to download this app."

You aren't required to have any particular app to enter a Broadway theatre. You only need your vaccinating card and ID.

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:07pm

What Fosse said.

An app has never been required, and I highly doubt ever will be, given the basic logistics of checking phones AND vaccination cards (imagine the time it would take?), not to mention not every person owns a smartphone.

The COVID safe app has nothing to do with proving you are vaccinated (which you well know IS required to attend a Broadway show, in addition to masking) - it's simply an awareness/contact tracing app, and as it clearly states on https://broadwaydirect.com/theatre-policies/, they are only asking that people use it to help with contact tracing.

Last updated and effective as of May 5, 2021.

For the health and safety of our audience and employees, we ask [NOT REQUIRE] that all ticket holders over the age of 18 download New York State’s contact tracing app COVID Alert NY, available for iOS or Google Play before entering the theatre.

This app is run by the NYS Department of Health side by side with New York’s comprehensive COVID-19 contact tracing effort. Its goal is to help reduce the spread of COVID-19 amongst New Yorkers and those who visit New York State. Your identity is never revealed to anyone, however, you will be alerted if you have come into close contact with anyone who has COVID-19.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:36pm

This app was always just window dressing. We never had meaningful contact tracing, and this app was doomed to failure because it depended on the voluntary engagement of third parties. If the third party was not signed up, there would be no way to know if they were negative or had the most virulent case of covid imaginable.

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:43pm

^^ Yup. It's pretty pointless. I've had it since it launched and never have been alerted about proximity to a positive case in its 2 years. I don't consider myself lucky in that regard; I consider the fact that you have to remember to log it in the app that you're positive so it can communicate it out to others. It expects everyone to log into it every single day and report how they're feeling, which is a noble but unrealistic quest. The app has been relegated into my Miscellaneous folder in my phone and has probably uninstalled itself for lack of use by now.

Frankly, it's odd that they're trying to encourage its use NOW, after all this time. I guess it's due to the mandates being dropped and the statistical likelihood that people will contract it more frequently as a result? Seems futile (but I guess if it saves/helps just one person...).

[HogansHero]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:50pm

@veronica Unless there is a typo in your earlier post, this was "Last updated and effective as of May 5, 2021."

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:52pm

HogansHero said: "@veronica Unless there is a typo in your earlier post, this was "Last updated and effective as of May 5, 2021.""

Ah ha ha - what year is it??? Good grief. LOL

Then I and everyone else can definitively say they do NOT require or check for this app at Nederlander or any other house.

All my points remain nonetheless.

Updated On: 3/5/22 at 01:52 PM

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 1:58pm

HogansHero said: "This app was always just window dressing. We never had meaningful contact tracing, and this app was doomed to failure because it depended on the voluntary engagement of third parties. If the third party was not signed up, there would be no way to know if they were negative or had the most virulent case of covid imaginable."

Yeaaaaah as someone who actually WORKED as a contact tracer, you couldn’t be more wrong. The contact tracing, combined with other city efforts, helped the cases decline. It wasn’t the main factor-I would never say that. But don’t say it was “window dressing”. That is incredibly insulting to everyone who worked so hard to help people who had been exposed to COVID, helped them access free resources while they stayed home, provided so many other resources. And the app actually DID work as long as you had it activated. So don’t claim it didn’t do anything. While yes, it did primarily depend on everyone participating, do not say it didn’t do anything. Incredibly insulting, thanks. 

We got yelled at, cursed at. Told what we were doing was pointless. Really? Is it? When combined with other city efforts cases went DOWN when we were reaching out to people?? Don’t you dare say the app or contact tracing was for nothing. What exactly did any of you do to help? Thanks. And don’t say I’m overreacting. We worked so hard, and we don’t deserve people saying anything involved was pointless. 

Updated On: 3/5/22 at 01:58 PM

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 2:58pm

You and the others who worked hard have nothing to do with the way things were handled at the governmental level in terms of contact tracing. I'd never speak for Hogan and I'm not at all when I say this, but the comment didn't seem to be a direct attack on you or the "boots on the ground" that did the work, but rather an app that, as mentioned, required volunteering of information and there was no way to enforce that, so who knows how many people DIDN'T report it, thereby not alerting people of exposure? Did you personally code this app? Why are you lashing out at a comment about an app?

Frankly, you are overreacting, and as someone whose career depends on Broadway operating safely, I will absolutely stand by that opinion and my previously stated opinion that the app and the national efforts - or lack thereof- to contain this thing were a failure, despite the best efforts of some. It has nothing to do with your contributions, which no one has said aren't or weren't appreciated.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 3:37pm

hearthemsing22 said: "Yeaaaaah as someone who actually WORKED as a contact tracer, you couldn’t be more wrong. The contact tracing, combined with other city efforts, helped the cases decline. It wasn’t the main factor-I would never say that. But don’t say it was “window dressing”. That is incredibly insulting to everyone who worked so hard to help people who had been exposed to COVID, helped them access free resources while they stayed home, provided so many other resources. And the app actually DID work as long as you had it activated. So don’t claim it didn’t do anything. While yes, it did primarily depend on everyone participating, do not say it didn’t do anything. Incredibly insulting, thanks.

We got yelled at, cursed at. Told what we were doing was pointless. Really? Is it? When combined with other city efforts cases went DOWN when we were reaching out to people?? Don’t you dare say the app or contact tracing was for nothing. What exactly did any of you do to help? Thanks. And don’t say I’m overreacting. We worked so hard, and we don’t deserve people saying anything involved was pointless."

My comment was related exclusively to the app, and definitely not to human contact tracers. Sorry but the app was a waste of effort and a lot of money. You say, "the app actually DID work as long as you had it activated." That's half right. It worked only if you and everyone with whom you came in contact had activated it but there was no mandate for that and in  fact there was precious little marketing of that app. If you don't believe that, check the number of downloads. It was a joke. All of that said, thank you for your hard work, at a time when it was desperately needed and did indeed make a difference.   

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 3:56pm

I always show my physical vaccination card and I.D.  Never once downloaded nor used that app and never have had any issues.  

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 4:16pm

Who ever used that dumb, buggy app anyways? 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 4:48pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "I always show my physical vaccination card and I.D. Never once downloaded nor used that app and never have had any issues."

This is not an app for showing your vax card and ID. It is an alert app for getting near someone who is infected. But it doesn't work, not because it is "buggy" but because it can't work.

 

[eurydice3]

Posted: 3/5/22 at 4:52pm

Good idea, bad execution. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/6/22 at 11:26am

HogansHero said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Yeaaaaah as someone who actually WORKED as a contact tracer, you couldn’t be more wrong. The contact tracing, combined with other city efforts, helped the cases decline. It wasn’t the main factor-I would never say that. But don’t say it was “window dressing”. That is incredibly insulting to everyone who worked so hard to help people who had been exposed to COVID, helped them access free resources while they stayed home, provided so many other resources. And the app actually DID work as long as you had it activated. So don’t claim it didn’t do anything. While yes, it did primarily depend on everyone participating, do not say it didn’t do anything. Incredibly insulting, thanks.

We got yelled at, cursed at. Told what we were doing was pointless. Really? Is it? When combined with other city efforts cases went DOWN when we were reaching out to people?? Don’t you dare say the app or contact tracing was for nothing. What exactly did any of you do to help? Thanks. And don’t say I’m overreacting. We worked so hard, and we don’t deserve people saying anything involved was pointless."

My comment was related exclusively to the app, and definitely not to human contact tracers. Sorry but the app was a waste of effort and a lot of money. You say, "the app actually DID work as long as you had it activated." That's half right. It worked only if you and everyone with whom you came in contact had activated it but there was no mandate for that and in fact there was precious little marketing of that app. If you don't believe that, check the number of downloads. It was a joke. All of that said, thank you for your hard work, at a time when it was desperately needed and did indeed make a difference. "

That is true-while cold calling people we did mention it, but obviously we couldn’t force people to download it. That is true. Even participating in contact tracing quite honestly was voluntary. Thank you for your kind words though. We rarely heard that. I really appreciate it. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/6/22 at 11:36am

Did you personally code this app? Why are you lashing out at a comment about an app?

Exactly. The overreaction of that poster who then attacks, says stop attacking then apologizes the next day is exhausting. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/6/22 at 9:10pm

Sutton Ross said: "Did you personally code this app? Why are you lashing out at a comment about an app?

Exactly. The overreaction of that poster who then attacks, says stop attacking then apologizes the next day is exhausting."

Then maybe people shouldn’t say things that provoke said poster in the first place. Y’all thinking you can say anything without consequence, without caring about hurting someone because oh if they get offended they should just get off these boards-nah. Maybe y’all should think about how you treat people :) you can’t always say rude, offensive things and expect people to be okay with it. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve been on these boards. Common curtesy? Does anyone care? 

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/6/22 at 10:11pm

hearthemsing22 said: "Sutton Ross said: "Did you personally code this app? Why are you lashing out at a comment about an app?

Exactly. The overreaction of that poster who then attacks, says stop attacking then apologizes the next day is exhausting."

Then maybe people shouldn’t say things that provoke said poster in the first place. Y’all thinking you can say anything without consequence, without caring about hurting someone because oh if they get offended they should just get off these boards-nah. Maybe y’all should think about how you treat people :) you can’t always say rude, offensive things and expect people to be okay with it. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve been on these boards. Common curtesy? Does anyone care?"

Why would or should anyone know to not criticize an app because it will provoke you? This is a message board full of critical opinions on all topics. If everything triggers you because you internalize it and assume it was meant to insult you personally, you are in the wrong place. You really, really are. Because not one thing in this thread was about you until you made it about yourself and chose to take offense.

 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/8/22 at 2:29pm

veronicamae said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Sutton Ross said: "Did you personally code this app? Why are you lashing out at a comment about an app?

Exactly. The overreaction of that poster who then attacks, says stop attacking then apologizes the next day is exhausting."

Then maybe people shouldn’t say things that provoke said poster in the first place. Y’all thinking you can say anything without consequence, without caring about hurting someone because oh if they get offended they should just get off these boards-nah. Maybe y’all should think about how you treat people :) you can’t always say rude, offensive things and expect people to be okay with it. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve been on these boards. Common curtesy? Does anyone care?"

Why would or should anyone know to not criticize an app because it will provoke you? This is a message board full of critical opinions on all topics. If everything triggers you because you internalize it and assume it was meant to insult you personally, you are in the wrong place. You really, really are. Because not one thing in this thread was about you until you made it about yourself and chose to take offense.

"

Nah, I’m not :) Because it was about something that I spoke about, that I told people about, that I was involved in promoting when I did the contact tracing work. So no, I’m not in the wrong place. Try again hun. If all you can do is criticize maybe just don’t say anything at all :) 

I will not comment any further, but don’t say I made this all about me when it’s not. This was part of work I did. I had experience with it. It’s still on my phone. I use it. So yes, I do have a say here. Why do y’all insist on controlling me and then turning it around and say I make it all about me? Just don’t say anything when I comment. It’s that easy :) 

[veronicamae]

Posted: 3/8/22 at 7:56pm

Sure, Jan. You were 100% super chill about it and totally not out of line for the way you reacted to commentary about an app. But we're the ones in the wrong because an app was criticized and you think everyone here is supposed to remember details about your personal life lest we say something that triggers you.

I assure you that other than you exploding unexpectedly in at least half the threads you participate in, no one here will remember the details of your personal life to be able to accommodate your personal trigger words.

ANY WAY

Jordan L, enjoy your Nederlander show without the app!

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/8/22 at 10:29pm

veronicamae said: "Sure, Jan. You were 100% super chill about it and totally not out of line for the way you reacted to commentary about an app. But we're the ones in the wrong because an app was criticized and you think everyone here is supposed to remember details about your personal life lest we say something that triggers you.

I assure you that other than you exploding unexpectedly in at least half the threads you participate in, no one here will remember the details of your personal life to be able to accommodate your personal trigger words.

ANY WAY

Jordan L, enjoy your Nederlander show without the app!"

Aw cute, people are still using “sure Jan”? Isn’t it time we moved on from that? 
 

Methinks you exaggerate way too much. Aside from here, which fyi is not exploding, what other threads have I commented on in a way that would be considered “exploding”? Again, if you don’t like my comments scroll on by. I commented because I was involved in promoting the app and telling people about it, yes, I care about it. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/10/22 at 1:17pm

I will not comment any further

Then...you did.

But we're the ones in the wrong because an app was criticized and you think everyone here is supposed to remember details about your personal life lest we say something that triggers you.

*Chefs kiss*

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Posted: 6/22/22 at 2:40pm

EDSOSLO858 said: "Anyone that has visited a Nederlander house since Broadway reopened: do you just have to download the app and activate closeness sensing and COVID alerts? Do they check this before you enter the theatre?

Just curious. Shubert and Jujamcyn do not ask those 18+ to download this app."

Thank you. This is very useful information for me, but after I found out about the existence of spy apps, I try to selectively download apps on my phone. With the help of spy apps, you can read messages even in Telegram, more information about this here The use of spy apps is becoming more and more popular, and I haven't yet learned how to protect my phone from them, so I'm just trying to filter what I download to my phone or send using instant messengers.

Updated On: 6/24/22 at 02:40 PM

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 6/22/22 at 4:16pm

Had the app. Can't remember the last time I opened it. iPhone has the Offload Unused Apps and guess where that went.