Congestion pricing will destroy broadway - Page 7

[raddersons]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 7:18am

I just wanna say that 17.6mil cars doesn’t mean 17.6mil fewer people or ticket buyers or whatever. It just means more people took transit to avoid the cost. It also speeds up the time for those who do choose to drive and pay from CT or Jersey or LI to make getting here a better experience (which seems much more in line with the budgets of stereotypical Broadway audiences)

[gibsons2]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 8:41am

MezzA101 said: "New York says 17.6 million fewer vehicles have entered Manhattan in 2025

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-says-176-million-fewer-vehicles-have-entered-manhattan-2025-2025-09-09/"

Excellent. Many lives have been saved by keeping vehicles off Manhattan roads.

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 8:58am

Hoo-ray for congestion pricing!

Well, now that that baby's put to bed, lets move on to the next panic on the agenda.

"DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM WILL DESTROY BROADWAY!"

Discuss.

[hyangsoo]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 11:04am

So funny how every time CP is brought up people on this forum will put their head in the sand and rationalize every way they can to say that CP is great for Broadway. "Oh it just means they are taking the train". Um no sorry buddy, they are not. They are choosing to spend their money and time on other things.

Quite frankly Broadway needs to focus on ensuring there is a reliable base of theater lovers in the NYC metro area that can come to Manhattan frequently and on a regular basis to sustain the industry. Making it more annoying and expensive to do so for people outside Manhattan is not a great way to build a long term customer base. And NYC theater should not be relying on the random tourist that comes in once every year or every other year to sustain their audiences.

Lately the numbers are reflecting that NYC theater cannot sustain on just Manhattan audiences alone, whether that be a drop in NYC metro audience numbers or tourists. Earlier this year there was an impressive slate of top notch newer or limited run shows to keep bringing people in. Now that it's a bit quieter we are seeing that staple shows aren't doing too well. But do keep going on about how dumb people outside of Manhattan will just inconveniently take the train or bus in or eat all the higher costs to drive in to watch theater without any impact to the Broadway revenue numbers.

 

Updated On: 9/10/25 at 11:04 AM

[Huss417]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 11:08am

hyangsoo said: "So funny how every time CP is brought up people on this forum will put their head in the sand andrationalize every way they can to say that CP is great forBroadway. "Oh it just means they are taking the train". Um no sorry buddy, they are not. They are choosing to spend their money and time on other things.


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Sorry Buddy. I've been taking the train. Never a fan of generalizations.

[hyangsoo]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 11:15am

Huss417 said: "hyangsoo said: "So funny how every time CP is brought up people on this forum will put their head in the sand andrationalize every way they can to say that CP is great forBroadway. "Oh it just means they are taking the train". Um no sorry buddy, they are not. They are choosing to spend their money and time on other things.


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Sorry Buddy. I've been taking the train. Never a fan of generalizations."

You do you. Not everyone wants to

[Huss417]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 11:30am

hyangsoo said: "Huss417 said: "hyangsoo said: "So funny how every time CP is brought up people on this forum will put their head in the sand andrationalize every way they can to say that CP is great forBroadway. "Oh it just means they are taking the train". Um no sorry buddy, they are not. They are choosing to spend their money and time on other things.


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Sorry Buddy. I've been taking the train. Never a fan of generalizations."

You do you. Not everyone wants to"

Have you ever been on Metro North after the theatres get out?  Always packed with people who have seen a show. I'm assuming the same with the LIRR..

The majority of the people I know it CT that go to the theatre prefer to take the train. It has nothing to do with congestion pricing.

Updated On: 9/10/25 at 11:30 AM

[raddersons]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 12:43pm

If you’re driving into the city to see a show and willing to pay $100+ parking, $9 is not going to dissuade you.

[Huss417]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 2:44pm

raddersons said: "If you’re driving into the city to see a show and willing to pay $100+parking, $9 is not going to dissuade you."

100% This. 

I also just don't like driving in the city anymore. Takes a long time to get anywhere.

[MezzA101]

Posted: 1/5/26 at 7:55pm

27 Million Fewer Car Trips: Life After a Year of Congestion Pricing

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/05/upshot/congestion-pricing-one-year.html?unlocked_article_code=1.CVA.RY8x.kqpQNs2p7_jW&smid=nytcore-android-share

[Kad]

Posted: 1/5/26 at 8:43pm

But but but it was going to destroy Broadway! People were going to stop coming to NYC! We were supposed to be doomed! 

[rg7759]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 8:53am

And? Is broadway doing well? Are small businesses? Is anyone besides the 1%? Get back to me in 10 years when out of town people have gotten the message that we dont want them here

[Huss417]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 9:52am

rg7759 said: "And? Is broadway doing well? Are small businesses? Is anyone besides the 1%? Get back to me in 10 years when out of town people have gotten the message that we dont want them here"

If you are still discussing/upset about congestion pricing in 10 years I think you need to find a better hobby.

[rg7759]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 11:13am

Thanks for contributing nothing 

[Kad]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 11:48am

rg7759 said: "And? Is broadway doing well? Are small businesses? Is anyone besides the 1%? Get back to me in 10 years when out of town people have gotten the message that we dont want them here"

Your ridiculous, baseless fearmongering got totally discredited so you now have to move the goalposts to ten years out? Get lost. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 1:00pm

rg7759 said: "I'm surprised there's not more public push back.But I think Broadway league and other small business coalition ETc needs to join New Jersey. Because it tellseveryone not to come to New York not to spend your money.It's only for wealthy people. Broadway is hanging on by a thread as it is." - March 2024

Turns out your embarrassing and weird statements never came true after almost two years later. Tell me since Broadway was "hanging on by a thread" in March of 2024, is it out of business now? Like, is everyone talking about all these shows on here hypothetically? Are we dreaming?

It worked, it's effective, and it's a solid program. Streets are safer, traffic is less severe, and commute times have improved. You trying to scare people by being overly dramatic and absurd failed. Hope that clears up all your questions!

Updated On: 1/6/26 at 01:00 PM

[rg7759]

Posted: 1/6/26 at 3:23pm

Very surprised no one is using common sense. Those $9 might not all be being taken from broadway spending but the state is collecting what would otherwise be going to local businesses. No money is being generated, just redistributed