Dear Evan Hansen Tony Performance — Page 2

Gensho said: "This whole idea of Evan Hansen as sociopath/psychopath is ridiculous. Oh they can't do You Will Be Found because it's misleading because Evan is lying. Evan is a lost and anxious teenager who is deeply insecure. He was abandoned by his father when he was young and his mother his hustling nonstop to provide for her son. Teenagers are still not yet old enough to understand the full ramifications of their actions. Jared aids and abets Evan in his deception. Evan is not acting from a place of malice nor is he cut off emotionally from his actions. He's nothing but emotions. He sees how his stories are providing comfort to a grieving a family. When the Murphy's are being attacked, they don't turn against Evan. Instead they get into a big argument about why they couldn't have managed to stop the death of their son. At the end of the day, Evan has nothing to do with the death of Connor, the Murphy's anguish is why they couldn't manage to get Connor the help that he needed.

In Curious Incident of the Dog, Christopher's father lies to his son claiming that his mother died, when she was actually alive. He intercepted the letters that his mother sent to him. Well obviously Christopher figures it out. I didn't see Message boards devoted to his father was a psychopath.

It drives me crazy.



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Ummmm....its fiction, sheesh.

I like the show, a lot, actually...i don't agree with those that think Evan isn't appropriately punished, I think it's pretty silly, actually. However, different opinions make the world go round....and there's no reason to let it get to you.

If you can't handle others having opposing views, why get involved in a dicussion?

coreman009 said: "Hahah you're so right, Gensho. These Hansen haters are ridiculous. Misleading? They probably watched a crappy bootleg and resent DEH because they're obsessed with The Great Comet for some reason.



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Let me be clear, I've seen DEH twice (live), and I did truly enjoy it, largely for Ben Platt's heartbreaking performance. Did I think it was a flawless piece of theatre? No, that would be ridiculous.

I do find it awfully silly how defensive some DEH fans are getting on this thread... You don't need to denigrate another show (especially an underdog like Great Comet) in order to show your appreciation for DEH. And being able to use your critical thinking skills to discuss both the highlights and flaws of any show is only a good thing.

Chill, it's not worth getting worked up about.

I love Waving Through A Window, but hope they do something else just because it was been on so many shows. I would love to see Disappear (cut before the Connor Project talking starts) into You Will Be Found.

"You don't need to denigrate another show (especially an underdog like Great Comet) in order to show your appreciation for DEH.



Most people on the internet, mostly this board, are refusing to give reasonable credit to Comet and are riding this insufferable DEH-is-the-best-show-ever-written wave "

But when you do denigrate it, or at least its supporters, by calling them insufferable, the hater label seems to fit.



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dramamama611 said: "...Ummmm....its fiction, sheesh.

I like the show, a lot, actually...i don't agree with those that think Evan isn't appropriately punished, I think it's pretty silly, actually. However, different opinions make the world go round....and there's no reason to let it get to you.

If you can't handle others having opposing views, why get involved in a dicussion?



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I think the problem is that the idea that DEH fails to provide perfect poetic justice is not just a differing opinion, it's a petty, pedantic and unimaginative opinion that if left unchecked would be the death of art. Just as the Romantics explained to the rule makers of the Renaissance.

GavestonPS said: "I think the problem is that the idea that DEH fails to provide perfect poetic justice is not just a differing opinion, it's a petty, pedantic and unimaginative opinion that if left unchecked would be the death of art. Just as the Romantics explained to the rule makers of the Renaissance."

Oh for heaven's sake. Maybe actually see the show before you spout off about its criticism leading to the death of art. Jesus, the mania around any critique of this damn show is starting to get absurd.

I know exactly what you're talking about, thank you. And unlike you, I have seen the show, and found the ending extremely questionable. Having that opinion doesn't mean I'm an advocate for the death of art, it means I'm a proponent of storytelling that isn't as lazy, cheap, and manipulative as this show is. I certainly don't care if someone else feels differently, but this assertion that my reaction (as well as the reaction of quite a few other people) is "petty, pedantic, and unimaginative" is bizarre. And again, you haven't actually seen the show, so your opinion is also uninformed to boot.

As someone who hasn't seen the show and almost certainly won't see it for several years, I'm curious. To whom does Evan sing "For Forever"?

It's the start of his lie, when he begins making up his friendship with Connor. He sings it to Connor's family in their kitchen.

There isn't a gay undertone in anyway.

I'm not sure damaged is correct. But Evan would likely not know what a typical relationship us like.

dramamama611 said: "I'm not sure damaged is correct. But Evan would likely not know what a typical relationship us like.



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Thanks, dmama, I let the hyperbole carry me away. I won't call Evan "damaged" though I'll assume he might romanticize a day with a "best friend".

But am I the only one with MTV? I'm not proud of it, but when I can't sleep I sometimes watch Ridiculousness, a show featuring internet clips mostly of teenage boys doing stupid things and hurting themselves. THEIR FRIENDS FIND IT HYSTERICAL! The closer their friend comes to death, the funnier they find it. If he's conscious, the boy who gets hurt laughs longest. They do not compose paeans to the perfect day!

I know Evan is talking to the parents of a suicide, so he isn't going to make jokes. And I think there are some good references in the lyric (getting ice cream at A La Mode, quoting favorite songs, sharing private jokes, talking about girls who don't notice them, etc.). But claiming their perfect day was going off on their own to enjoy the view? Not in this century. Not even in the last century. Probably not since Byron and Shelley.

Updated On: 5/16/17 at 08:58 AM

dramamama611 said: "But for sensitive and "different" kids, this MIGHT be a perfect day. He can't know what "typical" boys do (although I'd argue that ALL teenage boys do the crap you've described). He knows what HE would think is perfect and applies it to their "friendship". It's stuff parents would WANT to hear, a special f'ship, a kinship.



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I agree re what the Murphys want to hear. Since DEH is fiction, I won't even get hung up on the fact that Evan's account must not sound much like Connor to them. There's plenty of willful suspension of disbelief going on, I suppose. But...

"All we see is sky for forever
We let the world pass by for forever
Feels like we could go on for forever this way, this way

All we see is light for forever
'Cause the sun shines bright for forever
Like we'll be alright for forever this way
Two friends on a perfect day"

I was a teen half-a-century ago, a much more innocent time. No internet, no Watergate, no MTV or skateboards, much less skateboard videos on MTV. I was pretty sensitive and had plenty of sensitive friends, but I can't imagine any of them talking in the language of "For Forever".

You wanna hear about a "perfect day"? It rained several inches one afternoon (S. Fla.) and a bunch of us high school kids (not an athlete in the bunch) played football at the local junior high, sliding around and tackling one another in the mud for hours. (I don't mean that to sound erotic.) My best friends were among the players.

But as you said first... DEH is fiction.

Updated On: 5/16/17 at 09:50 AM

jennab113 said: "I love Waving Through A Window, but hope they do something else just because it was been on so many shows.



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Ditto. I hope that they mix it up and do something, anything else. Most Tony viewers probably have seen at least one of the Waving performances.