Did Christine love the Phantom?
#1Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 3:05amI was wondering this question when I first saw the show and also when I saw the movie. I think she didn't love the phantom. In my opinion she felt pity for him and cared about him but didn't love him. I also this way because the story is about unrequieted love. What do you guys think ?
#2re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 7:51amWell, she initially thought it was the ghost of her dead father, so I assume she "loved" him at first. But not romantically.
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
#2re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 8:05am
Certianly not "romantic" love.
Like it was previously stated, she was thinking of him as her dead father, a replacement for him even. Familiar love, not romantic.
But she cared.
Deeply.
Until he started killing people...
... For her.
I have never seen the Phantom and Christine as a romantic pair.
Phantour
Stand-by Joined: 6/5/03
#3re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 10:35amI think at first it's this childhood affection because he's a figure that her father told many stories about. Then when they actually meet, he awakens her sexuality and she feels this passion she never did before. I think at the end she knows she has this passion with the Phantom that she'll never have with Raoul, which I believe is more of a traditional love. So in that sense it's hard for her to leave him, but she knows it wouldn't work out. I think it also depends on the actors and how they interpret the characters.
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#4re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 3:36pm
Ah, the age old question.
No, I don't believe she did. I think she may have had the type of crush you have on your teacher, but then when he showed his true colors she was turned off in a major way. He uses his voice and music to seduce her, which isn't love.
#5re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 3:55pm
Christine really never loved anyone but herself. She used people to further her career. She was quite the calculating young lady. Personally I was waiting for a cat fight between her and Carlotta.
Updated On: 12/14/07 at 03:55 PM
sleepyguy1717
Broadway Star Joined: 8/1/07
#6re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 3:55pmI think she loves the idea of Phantom. The idea of her father sending her an Angel of Music. To help her remember her father.
WOSQ
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/03
#7re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 3:55pm
Well, no, but all that would have changed if sex had come directly into the picture.
Its the age old temptation between bad man/good sex or good man/blah sex. Danger versus safety. Judd versus Curly.
That is her conflict. She is mighty curious about this nutty firecracker, but she has already given her heart (and pledge) to Mister White Bread.
All plot conflicts boil down to sex or money. Or power which is a combination of the two.
#8re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 5:33pmI agree with every one about christine not loving the phantom in a romantic way. I also would like to know why she gave the phantom 2 kisses in the film ? In the stage show she gives him 1 kiss
#9re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 5:45pmThis would be a hot thread circa 1988 - if Broadwayworld.com exsisted.
#10re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/14/07 at 7:23pmI think she just had some serious Daddy issues!
#11re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/15/07 at 12:33amWOSQ, wow, comment of the week. That was a really good comparison...the Curly/Judd interpretation. If you think about it, Laurey is, I think at least, somewhat attracted to/intrigued by Judd, who is the bad guy, the guy from which to stay away, very much like the phantom. Meanwhile, Curly and Raoul are very much alike, the hero, the stereotypical "good guy", or "knight in shining armor." I suppose, along that vein, Aunt Eller would be Madame Giry. Well...who in the hell would that make Ado Annie? I don't think I even want to know.
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#12re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/15/07 at 10:46am
>>>I agree with every one about christine not loving the phantom in a romantic way. I also would like to know why she gave the phantom 2 kisses in the film ? In the stage show she gives him 1 kiss
Because he's hawt! (You can't see how hard I'm rolling my eyes.)
No, stage Christines very often give two kisses, too. It just depends on the actress, I guess.
SporkGoddess
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
#13re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/15/07 at 12:22pmNo, he was a creepy stalker and all that she felt was pity for him (in the novel, anyway. In the musical it's more like "Okay, I'll just kiss you so you'll shut up.")
#14re: Did Christine love the Phantom?
Posted: 12/15/07 at 6:49pmWhen I first saw the show, I thought she loved him. And therefore, I was upset when they didn't end up together! Now, I'm not that sure, it is like some parasitic relationship. But I'm still not a fan of the show.
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