Dracula CD Delayed Again

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:29pm

Only by a few days, according to the Global Vision newsletter....

3. "DRACULA, The Musical - The Concept Recording" is expected to ship on
April 18, 2006. Starring James Barbour, Kate Shindle, Lauren Kennedy, Rob
Evan, Euan Morton and Norm Lewis.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:37pm

Who exactly is the person throwing their money out the window by producing this flop CD, more than a year after closing to negative reviews across the board?

[umgeoboy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:41pm

"throwing their money out the window?"

Um actaully if you look at amazon.com sales this cd is selling and its not even released yet.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:44pm

Selling does not neccessarily equal profit. I'm sure In My Life sold a few tickets here and there.

[umgeoboy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:48pm

This cd will turn a profit. There's very little question. The cd was done in Jeremy's studio, to keep costs down. The show is selling out every night in Swizz, about to open in Asia and another production in Europe.

Also, its a cd not a broadway show. It doesnt matter how long it takes to sell cds. The fact that they are selling is whats important.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:49pm

There use to be 2 things in life you were sure of- Death & Taxes

Add a 3 rd, getting word the Dracula CD is delayed again. I saw the show & liked it. The song list did nothing for me as many songs from the show are gone. I still would have bought it. Now, with another delay, I may just take a pass. It ain't worth it. Nothing is worth this much aggravation

[umgeoboy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:51pm

This final delay was all of 2 weeks. If that is all it takes to back you out of buying a cd. That's not very much.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:51pm

I think this Cd will come out when the 2 CD set of Capeman is released. So basically, don't hold your breath.
Updated On: 2/27/06 at 05:51 PM

[umgeoboy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:52pm

While you may be waiting a long time for the 2 cd set of capeman. Dracual concept is being sold and is in the finished state, just waiting KOCH records to release it.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:56pm

what aggravation? are there still people who don't have the demos? for shame...

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 5:57pm

I'll believe it when I see it. I think the world can go a few minutes without another WIldhorn cd.
Updated On: 2/27/06 at 05:57 PM

[morosco]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 6:29pm

DRACULA was a mess. It's the only show where I've written to the producers demanding a refund for my tickets. I never expected to really get a refund but I was suprised when I did hear back from them. Instead of a refund they sent me a comp voucher good for tickets to a future performance of DRACULA.

lol

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 6:34pm

Look guys...

We're a startup... we could have bootstrapped this, and had it on the street a year ago... instead, we're thinking long-term, and globally. We have aligned ourselves with the LARGEST independent media distributor in the world. These guys know what they're doing. Anyone can get their CD sold by Amazon, but it takes a machine to get the records into stores, worldwide, and that is what Koch does.

With that said, maybe we shouldn't have shared the target release dates -- we were pretty firm on April 4, there was a minor issue that delayed Jekyll by one day, and since we want to roll both CDs out on the same day, that kicked us back 2 weeks. This is how it works with the big boys.

If you're looking to beat us up for this, in the future, we can ship then announce, but then you'll be screaming at us because you didn't see it coming.

There are MANY people working hard to get this puppy shipping -- my work has been done on this for a long time...

In our e-blast, we stated, "expected to ship" -- yes, I left a hole in case something happens.

The difference between a deadline for a product such as a CD, with NO forced deadline, means you can take your time to get it right... we do not have to rush it out for an arbitrary deadline set by "the man". When we do shows, at 8pm, the people will be there, you better be ready... and if not, you do your best... we don't have to do our best... we can wait and make it right.

How many of you are performers who have gone on stage under-prepared for an opening because you had to? You'd be lying if you didn't admit to it.... wouldn't it be nice to get an extra month of rehearsal or tech?

In our case, we could have simply rushed it out, but instead, we're letting the experts in distribution do their job. It doesn't effect us, except for a little reputation smear on the promised date. I will hope that most of you will get over it once the CD ships.

We're very proud of the music and the performances.

Can't wait for everyone to hear it!

Thanks,

Jeremy
http://www.globalvisionrecords.com/

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 6:42pm

>> Who exactly is the person throwing their money out the window by producing this flop CD, more than a year after closing to negative reviews across the board?

That would be me. And my partner, composer, Mr. Wildhorn.

This CD has NOTHING in common with the bway production. NOTHING. All new arrangements and orchestrations. All new approach to the story. 4 new songs that the bway director and producers would not put into the show...

This CD is about the music. And the storytelling.

Yes, it's my money, and Frank Wildhorn's. And we feel very strong that the music speaks for itself... so we made the recording.

How dare you call it a flop, to my face, before it has been released?

If you're in NYC, please contact me and I'd to show you the studio that we built to make theatrical recordings... I'd like you to meet the team of hard working people that believe in our goal...

Your words, thrown loosely around, are dangerous.

Let us ship this thing before you rip it to shreds, ok?

http://www.globalvisionrecords.com/

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 6:46pm

>> DRACULA was a mess.

That's part of the reason we made this recording.

Frank didn't get what he wanted from the bway production, so we went and recorded the music, with a new creative team, from scratch.

This recording has NOTHING in common with the broadway production... please don't forget that!


http://www.globalvisionrecords.com/

[Loge]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:08pm

Bravo! Jeremy! I think it's great this recording is coming out. We saw with "Dance of the Vampires" how producers can completely destroy the vision of the shows creators. I really wish producers would trust the composer when it comes to putting these shows on stage.

I, for one, I have always loved Frank's work. I think he is an unfair target of the masses, and it sucks. The music he writes has always been enjoyable to me. I love J&H (2-cd concept) and SP. I wish the new J&H CD would be a complete work based on the concept with the Broadway orchestrations. I saw the post-Broadway tour and it was great.

I can't wait for Dracula to be released.

[Loge]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:10pm

Are there really only 15 tracks on this CD? I am not sure if the clips are just part of the songs or represent the full CD.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:14pm

"Frank didn't get what he wanted from the bway production, so we went and recorded the music, with a new creative team, from scratch.

This recording has NOTHING in common with the broadway production... please don't forget that!"

The Broadway cast that was led to believe they were going to record may disagree with you, Jeremy, and I certainly do. They only found out about this scab recording (begun during the show) when an actor who'd been asked to do it refused the offer, and promptly informed the cast. Up until that point, they still believed (because they'd been told so) that they were going to record.

And if Wildhorn wasn't happy with what he got out of the cast, he certainly did not say so at the time.

This "concept" album was made purely for financial reasons (go ahead, blame the unions) and cut the cast out entirely. The right thing was not done here.

Your words are not true. And you know it.

I've never said this on this board before, but you are simply shamelessly shilling.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:30pm

He could not afford to make a recording with the original cast due to restrictive union rules. He had no choice. As much as I wanted a recording of the show with the original cast, I knew it could not happen. He had no choice but to do it this way. He is protecting his work & this was the only way to do it. The critics will not give him a fair shake so he had go another route
He had to do what was best for him which I understand

Actors can work again but composers like Frank must do what they have to to survive

[morosco]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:40pm

"He could not afford to make a recording with the original cast due to restrictive union rules."

Were the "restrictive" union rules for the DRACULA cast recording any different than union rules for any other cast recording?

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 7:45pm

That is quite simply nonsense, Roxy. Somehow others manage to do it. Blaming the unions is simply an easy excuse. And a poor one. And he certainly could have bypassed the unions and still used the original cast if he'd wanted to. He simply had to wait til the show was closed. Seeing as the CD still isn't out yet, I think he might have been able to manage that.

And to what do you attribute Wildhorn's deliberately leading the cast to believe that they were doing the recording, while all the while he was planning this "concept" album? Auditioning other actors. WHILE THE SHOW WAS STILL RUNNING. Behind the casts' backs. I can assure you this is true. They only found out because some else told them. This was poorly, poorly handled. The actors were badly treated. And what do the critics have to do with this?

Updated On: 2/27/06 at 07:45 PM

Posted: 2/27/06 at 8:22pm

I am excited about the realease of this cast recording. I would have liked to have seen it. I am one of those who does enjoy Frank and his music. Just cause I like it does not mean I like others too.....

BTW... on another note.. Anyone know why My Girl, Linda and he split? If they dont want to make it on the board can they PVT me?

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 10:04pm

Can't wait for this.

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 10:19pm

ghostlight2:

Total rubbish --

Why not post with your real name?

I can't believe a word anyone says, especially if they are making accusations such as yours, hiding behind an alias. You are calling me a liar.

Who are you, and why are you making this up?
www.globalvisionrecords.com/

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 2/27/06 at 10:44pm

Uh oh.

Anyway, in short:

Am I unhappy this recording doesn't have the original cast? Yes (minus one person - thanks for Norm!)
Am I unhappy with the track list? Yes.
Am I unhappy with the orchestrations? Can't tell. But as of now, No.
Am I unhappy they swear this is completely different than the Broadway show, yet they are using the same logo? HEH...YES.

I wanted a recording of the show, not just the music. And you know there IS a difference.

But, alas, I will buy the recording not to support anyone - but because I do like the show.

Like I said. Collectible.

And, if you cannot tell, I am holding back quite a few things I would like to say - such as no wonder Wildhorn is usually so poorly received. He is passionate about what he does, but not the execution. Every time it's "Let's do something different." No, Frank, people just didn't like the show. But there ARE those of us who did. And who still do. And by the choices made in creating this CD, it is obvious those people were not important.

Oops, I slipped.

Updated On: 2/27/06 at 10:44 PM