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#26

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 3:17pm

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#27

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 3:22pm

I would have to add Curtains to the list as well. Great show and sad that it flopped.

"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear" Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll

#28

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 3:23pm

I always forget that Ragtime flopped twice...definitely a great score there too.

"Art, in itself, is an attempt to bring order out of chaos."-Stephen Sondheim

#29

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 3:34pm

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, for some reason I always thought that Ragtime was one of those shows that was close to recouping. Yet, it didn't do so during its Broadway run but did during its tour.

"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear" Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll

#30

Goldilocks
Flora, the Red Menace
The Rink
It's a Bird...It's a Plane...It's Superman!
The Rothschilds
Tenderloin
Caroline, or Change
The Human Comedy
Rags
Ragtime
The Secret Garden
Carrie
Legally Blonde
High Fidelity
Jane Eyre
Seussical
Jekyll and Hyde
Scarlet Pimpernel
Moby Dick
Metropolis
Eating Raoul
She Loves Me
The Apple Tree
Do Re Mi
How Now Dow Jones
The Baker's Wife
Destry Rides Again
Baby
The Grand Tour
Mack and Mabel
Aspects of Love
Merrily We Roll Along
Passion
Romance/Romance
Take Me Along
All American
Anyone Can Whistle
Zorba
Follies
70, Girls, 70
Blood Brothers
Candide
Pacific Overtures
On the Twentieth Century
Sunday in the Park With George
Mystery of Edwin Drood
Into the Woods
Chess
Legs Diamond
Kiss of the Spider Woman
Sunset Boulevard
Big
Titanic
Parade
Marie Christine
The Wild Party (LaChiusa)
Bombay Dreams
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn

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#31

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 3:58pm

Definitely The Wild Party!!!

#32

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 4:16pm

Oh so many great scores.

I'm gonna toss Dance of the Vampires in there.

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#33

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 4:20pm

No need to repeat what many others have listed...

Jennie
3hree (Does it count it never made it to broadway? Someone put Nefertiti)
St Louis Woman
Little Me
High Spirits
Baker Street
On A Clear Day You Can See Forever
Purlie
The Rothschilds
Seesaw
By Jeeves
Thoroughly Modern Millie
Grey Gardens

Updated On: 12/2/10 at 04:20 PM

#34

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 4:51pm

No one said Broadway, just flop, so go crazy.

I love Jennie, and can't believe I forgot The Human Comedy! Amazing score.

Goldilocks is pretty amazing.

Destry, Drood and Take Me Along didn't make back their moneys? I thought they were all pretty successful, but admit I have not looked too hard to confirm that.

Metropolis! Duh!

Another great London flop score is Two Cities.

With Irma you gotta do something!

#35

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 5:30pm

I don't think I've listened to Two Cities. Need to check that one out.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#36

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 6:49pm

Mr Matt, get a life, then get a research book. Many of the shows on your list were big hits, such as "Destry Rides Again" which ran a season and a half, and Take Me Along, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn...

Don't you understand that back then, anything over 250 performances was considered a hit?

Destry - 472 perf
Do Re Mi - 400 perf
Take Me Along - 448 perf

In their time, these were all decent runs.

Even by today's standards, Drood and On tHe Twentieth Century had very respectable runs.

And they all had great scores.

My nomination is "Bravo Giovanni." Great score BIG bflop.

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#37

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Posted: 12/2/10 at 6:52pm

Amour

#38

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 1:42pm

According to Suskin, Tree, Do Re Mi, and Destry closed in the red. Take, however, closed in the black.

Heathen! is a great obscure Broadway flop score.

Let's not forget Blitzstein's Regina and Juno.

With Irma you gotta do something!

#39

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 1:49pm

I've always been extremely fond of Amour.

"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body

#40

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 2:02pm

Two that I listen to alot:

Prettybelle
Canterbury Tales

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#41

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 2:24pm

Mr Matt, get a life, then get a research book.

I was posting in response to the thread title and the technical definition of a "flop", which is a musical which failed to recoup its investment. There is a thread listing financial flops based on the earnings listed in Variety. Maybe if you didn't have such a crappy attitude, you would have noticed this subject has been discussed ad infinitum on these boards and would have realized how I determined my list. If you don't personally agree with that definition of "flop", that has nothing to do with either my life or my research. It does however suggest your lack of perspective or objectivity which appears mostly to be clouded by your ego.

I could be wrong about Take Me Along. For some reason, I thought it was in Mandelbaum's Not Since Carrie, but I don't have a copy available in the office now for verification. There is also the issue that it really isn't a big deal and doesn't matter enough to warrant an immature personal attack.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#42

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 3:02pm

Agreed. Take Me Along is not in Not Since... fyi.

Just thought of Magdalena. Beautiful score. We're so lucky to have the CBS recording.

Greenwillow also came up in the Suskin readings. =)

With Irma you gotta do something!

#43

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 4:05pm

I Had a Ball.

Do you know what happens when you let Veal Prince Orloff sit in an oven too long?

#44

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 4:07pm

Another we should be glad was recorded: THE GRASS HARP

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#45

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 8:37pm

Honestly, my two favorite scores were flops. Parade and Ragtime... You can't get much better than that!

#46

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 8:38pm

I was JUST going to add The Grass Harp. Is it worth it to get the Varese reissue if one already has the Painted Smiles reissue?

Along these lines are two great early 1970s Broadway flop scores:

Angel
Shelter

There are some odd ones like those that mingled theater sounds with country, rock, or other popular sounds. One of my favorite things.

I wish both of these would find their way to legitimate issues!! I'm talking to you Kritzerland (Angel, maybe?) and Masterworks Broadway (Shelter).

With Irma you gotta do something!

#47

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 10:13pm

Curtains
Ragtime
Seussical
13 and Tarzan (I know I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed some of the songs.)

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#48

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 11:04pm

I think Tarzan was very good...

#49

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Posted: 12/3/10 at 11:44pm

>> "Is it worth it to get the Varese reissue if one already has the Painted Smiles reissue?"

I really dont know. I have the original LP, which I transferred to CD a few years back.

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#50

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Posted: 12/4/10 at 12:10am

I don't know if it qualifies as a flop, since it was originally produced at the Vineyard (i.e. non-profit), but I find Goblin Market to be quite lovely. The score is haunting and perfect for the subject matter.

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