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If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longer.

If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longer.

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ucjrdude902
#1If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longer.
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:15pm

Any thoughts?

My opinion...call me crazy but

If Legally Blonde would have played the Hirschfield it would have lasted longer.

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TheCharleston
#2re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:16pm

oh GOD.

please... no.

Legally Blonde was destined to fail (and close)

Zeitoujo
#2re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:18pm

If Title of Show would have played the Booth it would have lasted longer.


"Those You've Known And Lost Still Walk Behind You"-Spring Awakening

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MisterRussell
#3re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:19pm

God, ucjrdude, learm to communicate in proper English.

"If _____ HAD played the _____ it would have..."

Obviously the product of a public school.

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WiCkEDrOcKS
#4re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:23pm

I agree about LEGALLY BLONDE.

But disagree about [title of show].

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Borstalboy
#5re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:28pm

If LaChiusa's THE WILD PARTY had played the O'Neill or the Kerr, it would have lasted longer.


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Smaxie
#6re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:33pm

Legally Blonde passed on the Hirschfeld. They did have a chance to book it but took the larger Palace instead.


Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.

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WithoutATrace
#7re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 3:00pm

If XANADU had played the smallest house on Broadway, maybe it would have lasted longer and recouped...oops!! Guess it did play the smallest house on Broadway and didn't recoup a dime. It deserved that fate.

WishingOnlyWounds2
#8re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 3:15pm

XANADU played a nice run.



Anyway, if '13' played the Helen Hayes.


2008: Feb. 18- Rent, Feb. 19- Curtains, April 18- Xanadu, April 22- Wicked, April 26- Legally Blonde, May 31- Wicked, June 13- The Little Mermaid, June 28- Wicked and Young Frankenstein, July 2- The Little Mermaid, July 6- A Chorus Line and Legally Blonde, August 16- Xanadu, September 13- Legally Blonde and 13, September 28- Xanadu and Spring Awakening, Oct. 12-GYPSY and [title of show], Oct. 19- Hairspray & Legally Blonde, Nov. 9- Wicked and 13, Dec. 14-13, Dec. 26- Billy Elliot, 2009: Jan 1- Shrek, Jan 2- 13 and Wicked, Jan 4- 13, Feb 17- In The Heights, Feb 19- Billy Elliot, Feb 22- Sweeney Todd (tour), March 28- Mary Poppins, April 4- Mamma Mia!, April 15- Jersey Boys (on tour), April 25- next to normal & 9 to 5 May 1- Billy Elliot, May 3- Spelling Bee (tour), May 8- Chicago, May 21- Wicked, June 6- Everyday Rapture, June 23- The Wiz, June 25- Hair July 15- Shrek, August 9- Wicked, September 7- Rock of Ages, October 11- Next To Normal, October 23- The Marvelous Wonderettes, November 7- Ragtime November 29- Dreamgirls, December 25- Billy Elliot, December 30- Finian's Rainbow, 2010: January 9- Bye Bye Birdie, January 16- Memphis February 17- The Phantom of The Opera, February 18- God of Carnage, March 7- Billy Elliot, March 31- American Idiot

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Bettyboy72
#9re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 3:18pm

If The Story of My Life had played Off-Broadway it would probably still be here.


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ShbrtAlley44
#10re: If _____ had played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 3:52pm

If it HAD, not if it "would have."

jagfkb
#11re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 3:52pm

If Tale of Two Cities had played the Hilton, it would have run longer, and here's why:

The show originally had large, grand design plans, which made it a truly epic piece of musical theatre. Making all of those designs as minimal as possible, in my opinion, was like telling the creators their show wasn't important enough. If they felt important about themselves, made their best effort to fix their mistakes, who knows, it may have infact run longer. Also, getting bigger names and more advertising would have helped tremendously.

dg22894
#12re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 4:04pm

If TITLE OF SHOW would have played the Helen Hayes theatre it would have lasted longer

Gothampc
#13re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 4:22pm

If Sunset Boulevard had played the Mark Hellinger, Patti LuPone would still be bitter, but the theater's interior would have made a more interesting setting for the show.


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Elphie3
#14re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 5:55pm

If "The Fantasticks" had played the Gershwin.

Oh wait...


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#16re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 6:09pm

MisterRussell, what the hell does "Obviously the product of a public school." mean? If someone makes a grammatical error, it is unfair and just plain stupid to blame the public school system. You're an idiot and your comment is stupid.

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BobbyBubby
#17re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 7:03pm

Xanadu may have played a "nice run" and thrilled many audience members but the point here is that it didn't make a profit and never really could have in that space.

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amoni
#18re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 7:44pm

If "Taboo" would have played Studio 54 it would have lasted longer. They could have retained the giant mirror ball "Cabaret" used and during the nightclub and finale turned 54 into a real Taboo.

LadyDramaturg2
#19re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/10/09 at 8:13pm

OK I can't stand it anymore:

Xanadu, as conceived (before it was mounted) -- IT WAS condemned...Deader-Than-A-Doornail failure stupid are you crazy fugettaboutit.

Then it runs, well, about 18 months longer than anyone predicted, or something (I'm estimating).

TELL ME please I gotta KNOW: What was costing so much that it was not possible to recoup? (this is my question)

And can't the tour(s) add to the hit/flop equation if it/they are produced by the same Prod. Co.?

Which in the strictest sense, could turn the flop into a hit [according to the financial calculus]?

[wuh?]

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rufussars
#20re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 5:13am

If TALE OF TWO CITIES had played the Hilton, it would've run about 3 weeks rather than...what, 7? I don't care how "epic" or "sprawling" the design was to be, the content simply couldn't hack it. And, on that note, let's segue to:

If YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN had played the St. James, it most likely would still be here today. I happened to be one of the many who enjoyed the show, and I feel that the greed displayed through the ticket prices and theatre move only hampered the show's afterlife. If Brooks stuck with his original house and proceeded with caution about premium seats, the monster would still be playing.

And, I don't care if [TOS] played in someone's basement, it had no business moving to Broadway; it would've closed after a few months, anyway.


...And so, there I was at the stage door for "Equus". The enthused avalanche of "Harry Potter" fans was literally pushing me into the barricades. As I was thrust face-first into Daniel Radcliffe's hat, I suddenly felt the thumb of a lanky gentleman behind me pressing firmly into my back. It was then that I realized that both of his hands had Playbills, and that both arms were outstretched in front of me...

spiritx33
#21re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 5:32am

If [title of show] had played the Circle in the Square, it would have lasted longer.

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nobodyhome
#22re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 5:43am

"If [tos] had stayed off-Broadway, it would still be around. *sigh*"

It was far from full when I saw it at the Vineyard, so I don't know if that's true.

"Xanadu may have played a 'nice run' and thrilled many audience members but the point here is that it didn't make a profit and never really could have in that space."

I'm not sure if you're saying that Xanadu might have returned more of its investment if it had played in a larger house.

If so, I'd mention in reply that it didn't play one week at capacity in the Hayes. If it couldn't sell out that theatre, how would it have returned more of its investment in a larger house? It only played at 90% or above for six weeks at different points during the run. The only thing a larger theatre would have meant is more unsold seats.


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Smaxie
#23re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 5:56am

>What was costing so much that it was not possible to recoup? (this is my question)<

Every show has a running cost - the salaries for everyone working on it, from cast, orchestra, crew, general management, press, advertising, marketing, theatre rental, theatre staff, plus costs for print, radio, tv, internet and outdoor advertising. The general problem with Xanadu is that while the Helen Hayes was physically a good choice for the show, the amount they could bring in with the theatre's limited seating capacity was not enough to meet expenses and generate a substantial enough profit. In other words, too high a running cost in too small a theatre - a sisyphusian predicament from the start. Had the show been a bigger full price ticket seller, it might have been able to meet costs, but it lived mostly on discounts.


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jordangirl
#24re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 7:57am

spiritx33 ~ That was my thinking all along. I may not have been a huge fan of the show, but it seems like that theater AND location would have been much better ~ size-wise and walk-by publicity-wise. They could have done their lotto right after Wicked's a la Spelling Bee and garnered some of that crowd.

Would it still be running? Who knows. Maybe, maybe not. But I think it would have lasted longer there.


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WiCkEDrOcKS
#25re: If _____ would have played the _____ theatre it would have lasted longe
Posted: 3/11/09 at 8:00am

If almost ANY show would have played the Circle in the Square it would have lasted longer than it did at any other theater. Ditto to the Helen Hayes. They're very small theaters.

I agree about YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN in any other theater to be quite honest...it didn't need to be as big and over-the-top as it was and it could have been a big hit in a smaller theater.


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