"Into the Woods" Movie Changes — Page 8

Stopping to think about it what bothers me is Disney has a history of dressing up misogyny as girl power.

They're into misandry now. That godawful Maleficent didn't have one redeemable male character. They're either portrayed as inherently evil or ineffectual. In fact, the more masculine a character looks (e.g. brawny, facial hair), the more evil he is. Young Stefan and Prince Phillip are still boys/young men, with willowy figures and delicate features, so they're not evil yet; however, Young Stefan is a thief and Phillip is a cipher who can't accomplish his main task (i.e. waking Aurora). There are no positive male characters in this movie. It seems the only way they can make a woman a heroine is to make all the men horrible or inept by comparison. Meanwhile, the inexplicably named Maleficent is totally reformed, and the only "bad" things she does is in retaliation for a man's betrayal and violation of her. Thus, justified.

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I meant that the male characters are evil for no apparent reason whereas Maleficent is given a reason for why she curses Aurora, which is shown to be just a momentary lapse in judgment. Throughout the film, she's inherently good and looks after the flora and fauna and later Aurora, which goes against the very meaning of her name. (Might as well have renamed her Beneficent.) On the other hand, King Stefan, who is a kind, loving, concerned father in the animated film, is evil in this new reimagining for evil's sake.

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It has more to do with what the witch is feeling than what happens to Rapunzel. She lost her daughter, whether she is alive or dead, in the witch's eyes, she failed because she couldn't keep her in the tower

"But "This is the world I meant" is referring to the world that killed her. It isn't quite the same if it's the world that just drove her off"

Exactly. The Witch's downfall may seem anti-climatic if Rapunzel is still living. LAST MIDNIGHT ( assuming it hasn't been gutted and taken out by Disney) won't have the edge that it should have.

Yes, that audio clip starts off with Rapunzel running away and then the Witch goes into "No matter what you say, children won't listen..." That's the part they've kept.

Maybe, but to me that sounds out of place. "This is the world I meant...." sounds like it should be more about the Witch's loss of the daughter that she loved rather than a "I told you so" to Rapunzel.

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That section was cut during previews and has been removed from all other productions. Also cut was a bunch of "A Very Nice Prince". I was disappointed because it is very powerful, but the show is 3 hours long.

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I was talking about the length during previews - when it still had Boom Crunch, and multiple short songs that were subsequently turned into dialogue.

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With intermission, it would be 2hrs 45 minutes. That's pretty much three hours.

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