Is Great Comet dead Tonys-wise?

With the latest piece by Reidel implying a Tony voter protest against the show, are the show's Tony chances dead for Best Musical? Or even any tech awards?

It would be a shame to punish the creators whom the voters claim to support. After all, wasn't the whole point of this mess that this was the creator's work and not the Broadway producers' in the Kagans? If the Kagans have folded, why the protest then? Show hasn't even officially opened for goodness sake...

As a film critic and someone who is big-time into film awards politics, I hate to see this kind of crap come up in the theatre world too...ugh

relax. It's Riedel stirring the pot.

CindersGolightly said: "Perhaps. Although that was only one person who said that. So perhaps not. We'll see I guess.



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He said "a few voters" which made me concerned this is already out of control and widespread. I just hate to see something that's already been resolved that really is a big fat nothing now get people all riled up months before voting.

Riedel also implied that voters would turn on Hamilton because of all the hype. It's early in the season, it's hard to say.

Again, it's Riedel. The same man who said Hamilton was imploding from feuds before the transfer was announced.

Take a step back. Are there "a few voters" who would bad mouth Comet? You better believe it: just count the above the title producers in every other new musical that expects to be in contention. If Comet is better than the competition, it'll win the big prize. (No one would penalize the creatives on this account so that's not even on the table. And if it wins and Kagan accepts it, he will be booed and humiliated. That sounds like more fun than denying the show the award it deserves.

It seems stupid to punish the show and by proxy, Ars Nova because of this. After all, if the show wins any Tonys such as Best Musical etc, Ars Nova will be one of the recipients.

Sunny11 said: "Cough.. Finding Neverland.. Cough."



Except I can't think of any Tonys that Finding Neverland deserved...oops.

Cinders, that was my intent, hee!

And willep is right. Neverland deserved nothing, and people who continue to say it was "snubbed" for political reasons are still wrong. The strength of the spring showings will determine if and where Comet deserves nominations, but it's objectively a significantly better production than Neverland.

Why did the drama desk and drama league awards feel that Finding Neverland and some of its actors deserved nominations then ? Their nominators are as equally as qualified to judge theather as the Tony's.

Lots of people say "Matilda" lost the Tony for Best Musical because the RSC dangled the show and made promises to several producers before giving it to the Dodgers.

There is also speculation that "Nine" won best musical over "Dreamgirls" because that asshat Bernie Schoenfeld and the rest of the Shubert Organization were key players in getting many stunning theatres torn down to make room for the eyesore that is the Marriott Hotel.

Don't kid yourself, Tony voters remember .

Updated On: 11/1/16 at 09:59 PM

Sunny11 said: "Why did the drama desk and drama league awards feel that Finding Neverland and some of its actors deserved nominations then ? Their nominators are as equally as qualified to judge theather as the Tony's.



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Because fun home wasn't eligible.

I'm not sure it's fair to say that the show is "dead Tony-wise" just yet. We'll see...but boy oh boy do I feel bad for Ars Nova, the investors, and the cast of GREAT COMET.

Updated On: 11/2/16 at 10:35 PM

@Cfried, walk us through that. Who are these Tony voters who will "remember" and who don't already have a reason to vote against the show? And why feel sorry for Ars NOva? They got what they asked for, and a heck of a lot of additional free publicity to boot.

@MM, totally agree.

@PT nothing that needs to be added. It's all sitting there as clear as day.