Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
goodlead
Stand-by Joined: 3/30/18
#1Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/6/18 at 3:08pm... as a Broadway house? It's certainly needed, but the church may have locked up ownership. Does anyone walk by there on Sunday mornings to estimate how it's doing in terms of attendance?
#2Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/6/18 at 3:49pmI don't think they are going anywhere anytime soon.
#3Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/6/18 at 4:21pm
yes, in the sense that the Dutch could reclaim Manhattan.
#4Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/6/18 at 6:38pm
Actually the church has outgrown it and wanted to dump it a few years ago, but aside from a nibble from Cameron MacIntosh, there were no takers.
#5Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 8:59amI could see it happening in the next 20 years.
#6Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 1:06pm
This would be my dream venue for MOULIN ROUGE...
#7Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 1:28pm
Perhaps ATG would go after it now, if the church were to try to move out.
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#8Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:07pm
Kad said: "Perhaps ATG would go after it now, if the church were to try to move out."
I was just going to ask if they had begun establishing their foothold here in the US the last time the church put out some feelers about potentially selling (I vaguely remember the Cameron Mackintosh info Jay mentioned, but can't recall when that was specifically). If I remember correctly, they didn't really arrive on the scene as landlords here in the US until 2015 or so when they announced that they would be taking control of the Hudson and had acquired ACE Theatrical Group and their venues. Based on their management of the Hudson (I haven't been to the Lyric yet since they've taken it over) I would be more than happy to see them add this one to their list of venues.
#9Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:13pmBut the church is an amazing establishment that is part of an amazing wider system leading to humanitarian outcomes such as banning abortion, persecuting gay people, denying scientific truths and feeding the next American soldiers of God (aka Republican Party members). Why would we ever want to see it repurposed as a Broadway house?
Cesare2
Stand-by Joined: 2/13/15
#10Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:25pm
My understanding is that the church doesn't want to sell the Hellinger. I mean, where would it move to? Saint Patrick's? There are likely a lot of potential buyers out there for the theater (and its air rights).
Apparently the church, at least, is taking good care of the building. Probably better care than when Nederlander owned it. (Of course, the church also is tax exempt.)
A Director
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
#11Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 4:46pm
HogansHero said: "yes, in the sense that the Dutch could reclaim Manhattan."
Once this happened, the Lenape could reclaim Manahatta!
tomwsjr
Leading Actor Joined: 5/9/05
#12Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 8:17pmIn my opinion the Mark Hellinger is the most beautiful theatre on broadway, with not a bad seat in the house. I’ll never forgive the Nederlanders for selling it
Jarethan
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
#13Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 9:04pm
tomwsjr said: "In my opinion the Mark Hellinger is the most beautiful theatre on broadway, with not a bad seat in the house. I’ll never forgive the Nederlanders for selling it"
I totally agree. The last time I was at the theatre, it was depressing because it was so in need of refurbishment. But, what a gorgeous theatre and what a spectacular lobby. There are opera houses that don't have lobbies as beautiful as the Hellinger. Hopefully, it will return to its original purpose at some point.
#14Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/7/18 at 9:19pm
qolbinau said: "But the church is an amazing establishment that is part of an amazing wider system leading to humanitarian outcomes such as banning abortion, persecuting gay people, denying scientific truths and feeding the next American soldiers of God (aka Republican Party members). Why would we ever want to see it repurposed as a Broadway house?"
Feel better?
#15Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 8:35am
kade.ivy said: "Feel better?"
I don't know about qolbinau, but I feel better reading it. These truths - so obvious, yet denied by so many - can't be emphasized enough.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#16Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 8:58amAnyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?
#17Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 9:49am
Deena Jones said: "Anyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?"
60 guilders?
#18Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 10:25am
Deena Jones said: "Anyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?"
30 Pieces of Silver.
#19Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 1:09pm
Deena Jones said: "Anyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?"
$17M http://www.playbill.com/article/ask-playbillcom-will-the-mark-hellinger-theater-ever-see-a-show-again-com-173268
#20Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 1:16pmSuch a small sum compared to these days.
#21Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...
Posted: 5/8/18 at 3:20pm
On the other hand, that amount translates to roughly 36.6 million today...
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