LaChiusa Wild Party- Page 2

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:13pm

I can see that. it's a shame that LaChiusa's works really aren't "commercial" but I am appreciative that places like the Public and Lincoln Center continue to produce them since Broadway is increasingly gearing itself only towards revivals and staged versions of cartoons.

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:13pm

oh see Marie Christine was my introduction to Michael John and in my opinion is one of the best scores of the last ten years. I did not see the show so I don't have a clue as to how it was onstage but the CD is so thrilling and engaging. Audra is beyond belief in it. I wasn't introduced to the Wild Party until a year later and then fell in love with it and Toni. They are both very different but both stunning. haha I remember as a little twelve year old (it was sixth grade when I got Marie Christine for x-mas) and I had to give a speech in our little Developmental Guidance class about how we deal with Anger and I wrote that I went home and listened to Marie Christine and I played some of it to the class....haha oh theater dork from the begining. Anyways I think they are both wonderful and it was a tough year and hard to compare.

edit- ^ oh me too Bwaysinger I am so grateful for places like the Public and Lincoln Center!

Updated On: 7/31/06 at 04:13 PM

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:22pm

The Marie Christine CD pisses me off beyond belief.

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:22pm

why? just wondering?

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:24pm

Besides the fact that it is missing so much music?
Or besides the fact that the best song in the show is performed only as a reprise on the CD?

Same problem with TWP CD...Missing the Black Bottom and Queenie's Act Two number...as well as some other songs, like "NEED." At least the tune of that song can be heard at the end of BLACK IS A MOOCHER. The lyric changes are also missing.

Not to mention one of my favorite verses, ending in "Just wants her chocolate darker" is missing.

Updated On: 7/31/06 at 04:24 PM

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:28pm

really? aww that blows. I never saw it so i wouldn't know. That's too bad. Do you think it's because they wanted to keep it to one disc?

[C is for Company]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:32pm

Didn't they also edit lyrics on TWP cd?

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:33pm

Jesus, Gust, you're too young for me! I was seeing TWP after finishing graduate school.
Excuse me while I soak my dentures.

I hate incomplete recordings as much as the next guy, Bso, but thank god they got recorded at all!

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:38pm

I think I remember my friend telling me that in Love Ain't Nothing... Kate sings "Don't you F*CK with me!" at the end instead of mess...little f-bomb control I guess

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:39pm

Yeah, they removed the f-bombs.

And a few verses here and there.

bwaysinger - this is also a good point.

[C is for Company]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:43pm

Yeah, little stuff like that. It is so strange how to me those lyrics will always be what they are on the cd, but it is surprising reading that what I listen to is not the actual lyric, I hate that. Especially since I do like to think of this as a completely decadent and unholy show and the more vulgar and vile, the more it adds to the darkness.

I read the poem and it was so fun reading through and recognizing some of the lines and getting more information on the characters. However, I still don't get the deal with Sally. In the story she still has that catatonic behavior and since I never saw the show, could anyone add some insight into her role in the show? LaChiusa seems to be very faithful to the material so I doubt there was anything too new with her, but what was she like in the show?

Updated On: 7/31/06 at 04:43 PM

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:44pm

haha yeah bwaysinger...and being the young'n that I am I haven't been able to afford the means to get to NYC to see any of these peices. It's interesting though because I actually got introduced to MJL's work before Sondheim (I had seen Into the Woods when I was little but I hadn't gotten to the point of grouping shows with a composer) and for a while all I listened to was Marie Christine. I would always put it in the car and my Mom just gave me some of the weirdest looks as I just sat there crying and sometimes singing along lol. I did get her hooked on both Marie Christine and The Wild Party although she tends to go for lighter musical theater fare.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:46pm

Sally was more of a post modernist in the show - aka weird.

[C is for Company]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 4:51pm

Alright, I think I would probably accept that more judging from Madeleine's behavior, but in the story it was just peculiar, especially that many of the characters had their little chance to shine and she really went undiscussed for the mostpart.

I found a bootleg of the little speech Dolores has before When It Ends and it was so good! So sad I never saw it

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 5:01pm

Gust, far better to have entered the musical theatre world on Lachiusa than...well, I'll leave it at that.

[zoran912]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 5:03pm

That's such a shame that the entire scores weren't recorded. I had no idea.

And I would like to thank God for younger theatre fans like Gustof. We need more of you.

[gustof777]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 5:07pm

well aren't you the nice one Zoran!:)

haha well I'm starting college in Philly this fall which is alot closer than WI so I will definitley be there for his next show/concert anything.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 5:10pm

The poem doesn't have much on the two Jews either...and there are different characters in both Lippa's and LaChiusa's...the biggest being Jackie. LaChiusa kept him as the ambisextruous love loving man...Lippa made him mute.

March's poem is interesting in that he describes various characters and then stated that the rest of the people at the party were just replicas of the aforementioned. A good idea LaChiusa kept - instead of trying to make extra characters.

I think that there's a little of everyone in LaChiusa's characters...from the racially oppressed in Eddie to the fading star in Dolores.

[Scottie310]

Posted: 7/31/06 at 11:50pm

I adore the Wild Party (as well as all of LaChiusas other works). I too think Toni Collette is absolutely stunning on this CD and I really really wish I could have seen her in this show. She needs to get another role on Broadway soon

[LostLeander]

Posted: 8/1/06 at 1:57am

LaChiusa's CDs often cut music, which is frusterating!

Marie Christine has some GREAT songs that aren't on the CD, like another hilarious song for Testa, and a really creepy voodoo number.

Side note:
If you notice, there are definite strains of MC in BA.

When Bernarda sings in Limbrada's Daughter, "Erase her name! Erase her shame..." etc, it almost identical to Marie's mother's "Will you loose yourself? Like I lost my myself... Marie.."

There are other examples, but I can't remember, cause I'm exhausted. Don't know how I feel about that.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 8/1/06 at 9:37am

Well, it happens with composers. They tend to find similar themes. It happens.

[WickedGeek28]

Posted: 8/1/06 at 10:04am

"Well it's Michael John! How could you not just oogle over his music?"

Amen to that! I find that he is the most talented current composer. His works challenge, inspire, and provoke the mind. I think his work is genius.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 8/3/06 at 12:38am

I love in SWIWS the "Devil release...I see heat" part in the Quartet...it reminds me of MC a lot.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 8/3/06 at 1:19pm

I was just thinking - in GOLD AND GOLDBERG they mention Albee? Would that be Edward Albee - who wasn't born until after the show takes place (or around the same time)...or is there another Albee?

[Jon]

Posted: 8/3/06 at 2:34pm

if you go to the website for shh-k-boom records (or whatever its called) and click on the BERNARDA ALBA CD, you can watch a 7 minute video on the making of the cast album. The music sounds much more interesting that Wild Party.


The Albee mentioned in the lyrics is E.F.Albee II, the owner of a chain of vaudeville theatres, and father of playwright Edward Albee. He appears as a character in both GEORGE M! and MINNIE'S BOYS.
Updated On: 8/3/06 at 02:34 PM