Les MIs tour cast to Boycott Trump performance- Page 4

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:00pm

gibsons2 said: "Speaking of Hitler, what inspires Stephen Miller? Do tell."

Facts and truth, as you can see in the video. Which part were you not aware of yet or do you disagree with?

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:08pm

Seb28 said: "gibsons2 said: "Insults? I'm just stating facts about this man. Why are you defending this fascist so much?"

I'm not defending anyone. I am talking about the serious facts in his video. Don't make it personal."

Could you please provide these serious facts that you claim are in the video? You should be able to actually present these things on your own instead of asking people to watch a 5 minute video of a white nationalist giving verbal diarrhea. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:11pm

TheatreFan4 said: "What I disagree with is a white nationalist sending people to a foreign prison

Could you please provide these serious facts that you claim are in the video? ."

He explains the details of this situation perfectly. Go watch the video and I will accept your apologies afterwards.

Updated On: 5/8/25 at 05:11 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:17pm

Seb28 said: "True, but actors in a musical do not have the right to decide for audiencemembers what they can or cannot think, and stop performing as soon as there is a personin the audience that they don't politically agree with."

Of course they have the right to refuse to perform. They're not slaves, nor are they surgeons who have scheduled a life-saving procedure. 

And discriminating on the basis of choosing to support Trump, a choice which has moral implications, is not at all the same as discriminating on the basis of race or other unchosen traits. 

I gather you think this person is evil?

 

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:20pm

Seb28, you are just being a troll at this point. This is a board full of theatre people, most of whom are likely liberals who hate Trump. What are you looking to accomplish? Go post on Truth Social about it, not here.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:21pm

Seb28 said: "gibsons2 said: "Speaking of Hitler, what inspires Stephen Miller? Do tell."

Facts and truth, as you can see in the video. Which part were you not aware of yet or do you disagree with?"

You said facts and truth and Stephen Miller in the same sentence?????  If that doesn’t tell us exactly what kind of human being you are, nothing will. 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:26pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "What I disagree with is a white nationalist sending people to a foreign prison

Could you please provide these serious facts that you claim are in the video? ."

He explains the details of this situation perfectly. Go watch the video and Iwill accept your apologies afterwards."

No, I'm asking you to present the statements that you agree with. Please do so. 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:30pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "What I disagree with is a white nationalist sending people to a foreign prison

Could you please provide these serious facts that you claim are in the video? ."

He explains the details of this situation perfectly. Go watch the video and Iwill accept your apologies afterwards."

There is something very wrong with you.

[getatme]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 5:33pm

This video of white nationalist Stephen Miller has nothing to do with the topic of the cast of Les Mis not wanting to perform for fellow white nationalist Donald Trump. Asking people to devote 10 seconds much less 5 minutes of their time to Miller's inane word salad and using that as defense for shaming artists -- some of whom may be queer, people of color, immigrants -- for not wanting to perform for a man whose very existence he calls into question on a daily basis is actually just as repugnant as anything Miller might say in that video.

Call me a snowflake, say I can't handle facts, whatever you want I truly do not care. But using a video of Stephen Miller and constantly doubling down saying he is presenting facts when that man has never met an interview or press conference he couldn't utilize to proselytize his hateful and offensive beliefs is ridiculous.

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:48pm

The Distinctive Baritone said: "Seb28, you are just being a troll at this point. This is a board full of theatre people, most of whom are likely liberals who hate Trump. What are you looking to accomplish? Go post on Truth Social about it, not here."

Truth. And I don't care how you call yourself and what you use as a reason to avoid it.

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:50pm

TheatreFan4 said: "No, I'm asking you to present the statements that you agree with. Please do so."

You want me to type out his words, which you can hear when you push the play button too?

[RippedMan]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:51pm

Bruh, read the room. None of us care about that man. 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:52pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "No, I'm asking you to present the statements that you agree with. Please do so."

You want me to type out his words, which you can hear when you push the play button too?"

Go back underneath your bridge. It’s missing a troll. 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:53pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "No, I'm asking you to present the statements that you agree with. Please do so."

You want me to type out his words, which you can hear when you push the play button too?"

I want you to have an original thought in that thick ass head. I want you to own the words of the white nationalist. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:57pm

getatme said: "This video of white nationalist Stephen Miller has nothing to do with the topic.

Call me a snowflake, say I can't handle facts, whatever you want I truly do not care."

This was specifically about the lies of deported terrorists that someone brought up. Which of course needed to be corrected. And the fact that you don't care about facts is clear. But please go on living your life convincing people who work at starbucks, restaurants, theatres, busses, airlines, hospitals, to refuse to provide service to groups of their choice, based on political beliefs or other traits.

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 6:58pm

Matt Rogers said: "You said facts and truth and Stephen Miller in the same sentence????? If that doesn’t tell us exactly what kind of human being you are, nothing will."

You either tell me which word in the video is not a fact or you stay silent.

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 7:01pm

TheatreFan4 said: "I want you to own the words of the white nationalist."

You don't want anything except from living a lie.

[Seb28]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 7:03pm

RippedMan said: "Bruh, read the room. None of us care about that man."

I have noticed, but sometimes it's good to be confronted with reality. My job for today is done. Now you can go back to unicorn land.

[fray3]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 7:23pm

Can I just say that this discussion shows exactly why things feel so divided right now? If people can’t share their opinions without being attacked, it really challenges the idea of freedom of speech. It’s totally okay to disagree with someone’s perspective. The actors made a choice—whether or not you agree with it, they did what they believed was right. You don’t have to support them, or you can. That’s the beauty of both America and theatre: having the freedom to think for yourself, and respecting that others can do the same. I know not everyone will agree with me, and that’s okay too.

[getatme]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 7:53pm

Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "You said facts and truth and Stephen Miller in the same sentence????? If that doesn’t tell us exactly what kind of human being you are, nothing will."

You either tell me which word in the video is not a fact or you stay silent."

The reason no one is telling you which parts of that video are false (there are many) is because the mere fact you have chosen this clip to share as a defense tells everyone you will not change your mind when presented with the actual facts of the situation. People could present you any amount of evidence in the world and it wouldn't matter because you are taking Stephen Miller and this administration's version of events as factual. Best to quit while you're behind, or so far ahead in your mind that we're all behind.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 8:36pm

Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "You said facts and truth and Stephen Miller in the same sentence????? If that doesn’t tell us exactly what kind of human being you are, nothing will."

You either tell me which word in the video is not a fact or you stay silent."

Don’t tell me to stay silent you pathetic low life troll. You are defending white nationalist Stephen Miller. You are disgusting. 

[Robbie2]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 9:18pm

Don't you all have anything else to do? Such miserable hateful humans - Sad!

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 10:11pm

My only take away from this thread is does anyone else think all the one thumb ups on Seb28's posts  is  Seb28 liking them himself?

[Esther2]

Posted: 5/8/25 at 10:35pm

Huss417 said: "My only take away from this thread is does anyone else think all the one thumb ups on Seb28's posts is Seb28 liking them himself?"

Yes!  I've been trying to figure out how to ask this without being "mean". 

 

Thanks!!

Updated On: 5/8/25 at 10:35 PM

[spicemonkey]

Posted: 5/9/25 at 1:20am

Huss417 said: "My only take away from this thread is does anyone else think all the one thumb ups on Seb28's posts is Seb28 liking them himself?"

Haha I found out about this long time ago from Seb28’s replies in the Sunset Blvd thread. 
 

“is their life really as empty as that”  (liking one’s own comment)