Lover Never Dies Tour

Because ALW is trying to see just how much embarrassment he can get out of this. At those prices it won't sell well.

If you want to see it and you are willing to fork out big bucks, why not opt for further back seats and buy a cheap season package. At least you get to see everything else as well for about the same price.

This is a little off topic, but why are the tickets to Love Never Dies so expensive? They are mostly gone and to sit 20 or so rows back are $173 or $200ish for front orchestra. I have never been asked to shell out so much for an off Broadway show. This show isn't Dear Even Hanson and Hamilton quality and we were going to see the show ironically and to see what they changed. Why so much for such a mediocre show?

Well, there are several things to address. First, it's a US national tour not an Off-Broadway show. An Off-Broadway show is a show that plays in a professional New York City venue with seating capacity between 100 and 499. Second, as MovieInMyMind2 pointed out, pricing depends on the tour venue and the dates. Where and when are you trying to see it? Front Orchestra in Utica is $69.25. IN Durham, it's $163.50 for Premium. Most cities have a huge subscriber base, so the majority of the tickets are pre-sold in subscription packages at a substantial discount from the single ticket pricing, which is a standard pricing model for Equity tours. Third, why on earth would pricing be based on your subjective opinion? The producers don't budget a show based on whether you're "seeing the show ironically" or not. If it's mediocre and you're "seeing the show ironically", why do you care what has changed?

I just checked the tour dates for the LND tour and their prices vary significantly. This is of no surprise to me. I am in an area where there are three major cities within driving distance from me, so, I frequent 3 venues regularly. The venue where I live ALWAYS has Broadway shows for about $70-80 for front orchestra which is where I like to sit. Since I'm so close to two other venues, if I ever love a show so much that I just HAVE to see it again, I check to see if it stops to the other venues close by. Shows on tour often do that, and, I often see the same show twice in two different venues if I like it enough to go again. That being said, there was once a time when I saw a show for $80 at my local venue in the front orchestra and I loved it enough to see it a second time, so, I drove 2 hours to go see it again at another venue I frequent, but, the price jumped from $80 to $170 for front orchestra. You'd be amazed at how much price differs city by city and venue by venue. I feel so blessed to live in a city that offers $70-80 Broadway shows. I've been frequenting my local venue for about 15 years and it's never over-priced. But if I go 1.5 hours south to the other venue I frequent, prices there jump up to $200 for the same seats, if not more, depending on the show. It's not uncommon and those of us who frequent different local venues to see Broadway tours will all tell you that no two venues charge the same price.

Moonlight, you may want to correct the thread title and take the "r" off of Lover.

Trpguyy is absolutely correct. Pricing is set by the presenter, and often it has to do with local costs of putting the show in/out of the space, along with costs for advertising, etc. For instance, the union costs in Utica would be lower than say, Boston. So you'd expect higher ticket prices in Boston.

trpguyy said: "Which is surprising, because you'd think Utica's"Local 1" labor costs would be higher than in Boston "



Considering Utica is part of Local 9 I'm not sure what Local 1 has to do with determining their labor costs/rates.

MovieInMyMind2 said: "I just checked the tour dates for the LND tour and their prices vary significantly. This is of no surprise to me. I am in an area where there are three major cities within driving distance from me, so, I frequent 3 venues regularly. The venue where I live ALWAYS has Broadway shows for about $70-80 for front orchestra which is where I like to sit. Since I'm so close to two other venues, if I ever love a show so much that I just HAVE to see it again, I check to see if it stops to the other venues close by. Shows on tour often do that, and, I often see the same show twice in two different venues if I like it enough to go again. That being said, there was once a time when I saw a show for $80 at my local venue in the front orchestra and I loved it enough to see it a second time, so, I drove 2 hours to go see it again at another venue I frequent, but, the price jumped from $80 to $170 for front orchestra. You'd be amazed at how much price differs city by city and venue by venue. I feel so blessed to live in a city that offers $70-80 Broadway shows. I've been frequenting my local venue for about 15 years and it's never over-priced. But if I go 1.5 hours south to the other venue I frequent, prices there jump up to $200 for the same seats, if not more, depending on the show. It's not uncommon and those of us who frequent different local venues to see Broadway tours will all tell you that no two venues charge the same price."

Why don't you make it easier and just say the city where you live?

Moonlightmoonshiner said: "This is a little off topic, but why are the tickets to Love Never Dies so expensive? They are mostly gone and to sit 20 or so rows back are $173 or $200ish for front orchestra. I have never been asked to shell out so much for an off Broadway show."

Those are typical prices for touring productions in my city these days. It has gotten to the point where it's cheaper for me to see a resident production on Broadway than a touring production in my home town.

I got to see the (technically) first performance last weekend when Love Never Dies opened with performances in Utica, NY. I’ve loved this show since the beginning in London and I fell in love even more with this tour. It’s almost identical to the Australian production with a couple minor changes to the set and some changes to “The Beauty Underneath” and the scene where everyone is chasing after Gustave. The first night had a lot of technical difficulties. Immediately after “Coney Island Waltz” the show stopped for a brief five minutes because the set was not coming together. The show’s curtain kept getting caught on the set a few times throughout the first act. Christine’s dress got caught under the globe and she had to tug at it right before she sees the Phantom for the first time in 10 years. Meg’s second to last bathing suit she wears in “Bathing Beauty” got undone in the back and she tried her best to keep it on. Other than that, it was honestly an extremely well done production and I hope everyone gives this a chance. The talented cast and everyone involved made it a great night, aside from the technical difficulties which are almost bound to happen with the very first performance with an audience.

Updated On: 9/28/17 at 01:56 PM

Theatricality said: "It’s almost identical to the Australian production with a couple minor changes to the set and some changes to 'The Beauty Underneath' and the scene where everyone is chasing after Gustave."

When Gustave plays his own melody on the piano, does the Phantom now entreat him to sing like he does with Christine near the end of the title song in the original ("Sing for me!")? I saw a clip of Gardar Thor Cortes doing this in the German production and LOVED it!

broadwayboy223 said: "Did they change the ending like Andrew said he was considering? Where Christine lives?"

No, the original ending hasn’t changed. Christine still (spoiler alert— is this even a spoiler anymore?) dies at the gunshot from Meg. Actually the way it was staged, it almost seemed as if Meg was unapologetic about it. The original cast recording has Meg yelling “I didn’t mean to!” and I don’t think she said that when the gun went off, or at least I didn’t hear her say it if she did.



Lot666 said: "Theatricality said: "It’s almost identical to the Australian production with a couple minor changes to the set and some changes to 'The Beauty Underneath' and the scene where everyone is chasing after Gustave."

When Gustave plays his own melody on the piano, does the Phantom now entreat him to sing like he does with Christine near the end of the title song in the original("Sing for me!")? I saw a clip of Gardar Thor Cortes doing this in the German production and LOVED it!"

Yes!! I didn’t expect this change when I was watching that number and it was amazing! Gustave even hit the high note at the end, granted I think the key is different from the original.

Andrew Lloyd Webber is billed as a producer, along with Troika who is GM-ing the tour. Whether or not he is present for rehearsals and/or previews, he is still a producer.


Well I didn't know that, didn't see him listed. Anyway, if he had any sense he'd let this show die, truly a dreadful musical, it's everything Phantom haters purport the show to be, bad story and beautiful visuals.