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YankeeDani said: "MezzoDiva47 said: "
has anyone bothered to consider the possibility that ABF was cast because he was the best choice from the pool of available candidates
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You need to objectively look at yourself and realize you may the stupidest most gullible person in the world. Like quite actually one of the least intelligent people posting right now."
Umm, if you're actually looking for "like quite actually one of the least intelligent people posting right now", you may want to look in a mirror, sweetie.
You can also add "Vicious Internet Troll" to your resume under "special skills".
Chorus Member Joined: 7/31/25
BorisTomashevsky said: "“Yup. It's amazing to see how ignorant some people here are. Did none of them read BD's statement or do ANY research on this topic before adding their 2 cents in?”
Have you been to Asia, Dani? Do you know that non-Asians are notoriously discriminated against when trying to participate in any and all industries? For a theatre industry established by, invested in, and nurturedby WASPS and Jews I’d say Asian performers have been quite reasonably included. No one owes a certain quota to anyone.
Have you seen the video of the black guy in an Iron Man mask trying to scare an Asian couple? He fails. Until he takes the mask off. It says everything about discriminationin Asia.https://youtube.com/shorts/-sbb4EL0ybs?si=wIHTBdjLtAbuAzHm
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You have 0 asian friends. I guarantee it.
And how funny you refuse to share how you help "support" AAPI companies in the past because it never happened.
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/11
“You have 0 asian friends. I guarantee it.
And how funny you refuse to share how you help "support" AAPI companies in the past because it never happened.”
Oh I’d better tell them that.
When did anyone ask me to demonstrate my support for companies? Either way, it has nothing to do with it. BD Wong & Co are demanding support from the show, so I’m just wondering if they’ve supported the show itself. I’m not asking Maybe Happy Ending for anything. They are.
BorisTomashevsky said: "“Yup. It's amazing to see how ignorant some people here are. Did none of them read BD's statement or do ANY research on this topic before adding their 2 cents in?”
Have you been to Asia, Dani? Do you know that non-Asians are notoriously discriminated against when trying to participate in any and all industries? For a theatre industry established by, invested in, and nurturedby WASPS and Jews I’d say Asian performers have been quite reasonably included. No one owes a certain quota to anyone.
Have you seen the video of the black guy in an Iron Man mask trying to scare an Asian couple? He fails. Until he takes the mask off. It says everything about discriminationin Asia.https://youtube.com/shorts/-sbb4EL0ybs?si=wIHTBdjLtAbuAzHm
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What the literal **** does this have to do with anything that this thread is about? We're not talking about Asia.
^ I’m just saying that Asians may not be the most inclusive of other races themselves - that is, if we can use “Asian” as a catch-all for all of Asia, as has been done so far, laissez-faire.
In fact, a significant amount of South Koreans are anti-Semitic. Maybe Andrew, an American Jew, should be not just allowed, but ENCOURAGED to play Oliver as an example of tolerance and understanding… surely something BD Wong & Co would want to cultivate?
https://imgur.com/a/9uD6R9m
BorisTomashevsky said: "^ I’m just saying that Asians may not be the most inclusive of other races themselves - that is, if we can use “Asian” as a catch-all for all of Asia, as has been done so far,laissez-faire."
Again, just not beating the racism allegations. You take a very real issue, that there's a lot of racism in Asian countries, then that goes through your very empty head and out comes "Asians are Racist." That has no relevance to the discussion that is happening here. We're not talking about Asian countries.
In fact, a significant amount of South Koreans are anti-Semitic. Maybe Andrew, an American Jew, should be not just allowed, but ENCOURAGED to play Oliver as an example of tolerance and understanding… surely something BD Wong & Co would want to cultivate?
You fiercely Googling "Asians being racist" to find things to make you look more racist is weird.
“Are you trying to say the people who signed the letter are being racist to AFB?”
I’m exaggerating to make the point that if we’re going to use “Asian” to mean everyone and everything (as in a Japanese actor can play a Thai concubine), and that if Asian actors are currently saying “we don’t feel welcome, we aren’t included” etc, then someone can very easily point out that Asians (since, again, we’re using it as a catch-all) are also not welcoming and inclusive.
There’s nuance when they want it, and no nuance when they don’t want it.
BorisTomashevsky said: "“Are you trying to say the people who signed the letter are being racist to AFB?”
I’m exaggerating to make the pointthat if we’re going to use “Asian” to mean everyone and everything (as in a Japanese actor can play a Thai concubine), and that if Asian actors are currently saying “we don’t feel welcome, we aren’t included” etc, then someone can very easily point out that Asians (since, again, we’re using it as a catch-all) are also not welcoming and inclusive.
There’s nuance when they want it, and no nuance when they don’t want it."
A point you got using Data about people living in... South Korea which I'm going to spit ball doesn't include anyone who signed this letter, or very few. So again, what is your point?
BorisTomashevsky said: "^ I’m just saying that Asians may not be the most inclusive of other races themselves - that is, if we can use “Asian” as a catch-all for all of Asia, as has been done so far,laissez-faire.
In fact, a significant amount of South Koreans are anti-Semitic. Maybe Andrew, an American Jew, should be not just allowed, but ENCOURAGED to play Oliver as an example of tolerance and understanding… surely something BD Wong & Co would want to cultivate?
https://imgur.com/a/9uD6R9m"
Did your grade school teacher teach you logic?
Swing Joined: 11/20/24
JSquared2 said: "However, as I'm sure you also know (but conveniently always manage to leave out), ABF did several workshops of the show -- before Darren was involved. He knows the show (which will cut back on rehearsal time), he and Helen have great chemistry together, and I'm sure they WERE delighted to be able to work together. It'll be 9 weeks. Get over it."
No one "knows" this or conveniently leaves it out because you just made it up in your mind. That didn't happen. In any way, shape or form. Darren was involved before Helen, and they "met" ABF as the reader in Helen's audition tape. So this is nonsense.
Sidebar issue, arguably not OT: though the new Oliver begins in 2 weeks, no ad campaign, and more critically, still no mention at webpage. Where seats are purchased all over the country.
It's somewhat disingenuous to keep selling seats without any mention whatsoever on the webpage of a new lead in place for September. It's quite possible to purchase tickets away from the internecine contention and believe Criss is still in the show. I've watched webpages for years, as many here do, and from Hamilton to Hadestown to Wicked - and those are shows less dependent on cast changes - and replacements are part of site maintenance. The new Oliver - announced circa July 24 begins 9/2, but click below: nothing on the webpage mentions this.
https://www.maybehappyending.com/cast-creative/
Whatever one thinks of the recast, neither a vote of confidence nor fair to consumers.
Now this is interesting. The ticket concierge option is saying tickets are on sale until September 7.
https://imgur.com/a/pcghYhv
The usual Telecharge calendar has all dates available.
I wonder how many sales they’re missing out on by not having the dates updated on that concierge purchasing channel.
You may wanna fix that, Telecharge. You’re welcome 😘
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/22
Most South Koreans are anti Semitic? Is there ANYONE sane on this board?
Why would they run an ad campaign for Feldman when the show is selling so well bec it was The Award Winner of the season? The show is the star. 90% of ticket buyers dont care much about Criss (is the show empty when he was out?) or the racial makeup of whoever is playing Oliver. get out in the real world my god.
PipingHotPiccolo said: "Most South Koreans are anti Semitic? Is there ANYONE sane on this board?
Why would they run an ad campaign for Feldman when the show is selling so well bec it was The Award Winner of the season? The show is the star. 90% of ticket buyers dont care much about Criss (is the show empty when he was out?) or the racial makeup of whoever is playing Oliver. get out in the real world my god."
As of 2014, 53% of South Koreans were anti-Semitic.
https://thediplomat.com/2014/05/why-is-south-korea-so-anti-semitic/
Stand-by Joined: 1/8/24
PipingHotPiccolo said: "Most South Koreans are anti Semitic? Is there ANYONE sane on this board?
Why would they run an ad campaign for Feldman when the show is selling so well bec it was The Award Winner of the season? The show is the star. 90% of ticket buyers dont care much about Criss (is the show empty when he was out?) or the racial makeup of whoever is playing Oliver. get out in the real world my god."
that fact is what the woke mob seems to be missing
the show won best musical
the great majority of the ticket buying public make their decision based on that award alone
a show can win every other tony except best musical and still be at a huge disadvantage
except for the jealous basement-dwelling social justice keyboard warriors who are too untalented to work in this biz, no one cares about this drummed-up so-called casting 'issue'
i guarantee the vast majority of ppl planning to attend dont even know who darren criss or andrew barth feldman are
they wouldnt even be able to recognize either actor from their headshots
if the producers and creative team are smart they will let this boil over and wait for the woke mob to pack up their torches and pitchforks and move to their next first world problem
MezzoDiva47 has spoken
bow down accordingly
Stand-by Joined: 1/8/24
YankeeDani said: "MezzoDiva47 said: "
You need to objectively look at yourself and realize you may the stupidest most gullible person in the world. Like quite actually one of the least intelligent people posting right now."
so i notice that all u do on here is attack and insult ppl who have views different than your own
yet u never make a substantial argument
and u confessed that u specifically created an account to come on here and flame everyone else
they have a word for that
troll
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