MAYBE HAPPY ENDING Reviews- Page 46

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 8:46am

Perhaps someone could organize a 92Y panel discussion and let the most frequent posters here talk past each other and share their accusations of racism out in front of an audience who can pose questions. 

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 08:46 AM

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 8:51am

BorisTomashevsky said: "An audition is an opportunity. An Asian actor can audition for Asian roles, white roles, black roles, brown roles. They can audition for more roles than a white person. Even if they don’t get the job, they still have the OPPORTUNITY.

I know exactly what I’m saying, and the reasonable people here know it too."

Well said.

And Asian people have the right to take over a role from a white person in a role where heritage does not matter for the storyline. The other way around seems forbidden. That is an evil problem.

Also, Asian people are the global majority. Who dominate many countries and parts of the world. White people are one of the minorities. The USA is a country with a white majority, it is strange that these anti-white laws and double standards for races are allowed on Broadway. Not giving white people the same rights as the global majority. In their own white-majority country. While countries with an Asian majority have complete theatre universes where white people are rarely allowed.

I have a question for the two-faced racist people on here, who demand different rules for different races in the USA. When is the ratio warped enough to start applying the same rules and equality? Because at the moment the balance is off. Can you let me know when you are there? When it's 100% non-white maybe?

For many years we have learned that any race should be able to play any character when it doesn't matter specifically for the story, such as robots, mermaids or opera ghosts. Claiming that the show is written by people of a certain race and therefore roles can only be played by that race is racist per definition. Because that would also mean that asian or black people should never play Eponine in Les Miserables. We can't be two-faced with this. We either accept this both ways or we do not.

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 08:51 AM

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 9:39am

Seb28 said: "BorisTomashevsky said: "An audition is an opportunity. An Asian actor can audition for Asian roles, white roles, black roles, brown roles. They can audition for more roles than a white person. Even if they don’t get the job, they still have the OPPORTUNITY.

I know exactly what I’m saying, and the reasonable people here know it too."

Well said.

And Asian people have the right to take over a role from a white person in a role where heritage does not matter for the storyline. The other way around seems forbidden. That is an evil problem.

Also, Asian people are the global majority. Who dominate many countries and parts of the world. White people are one of the minorities. The USA is a country with a white majority, it is strange that these anti-white laws and double standards for races are allowed on Broadway. Not giving white people the same rights as the global majority. In their own white-majority country. While countries with an Asian majority have complete theatre universes where white people are rarely allowed.

I have a question for the two-faced racist people on here, who demand different rules for different races in the USA. When is the ratio warped enough to start applying the same rules and equality? Because at the moment the balance is off. Can you let me know when you are there? When it's 100% non-white maybe?

For many years we have learned that any race should be able to play any character when it doesn't matter specifically for the story, such as robots, mermaids or opera ghosts. Claiming that the show is written by people of a certain race and therefore roles can only be played by that race is racist per definition. Because that would also mean that asian or black people should never play Eponine in Les Miserables. We can't be two-faced with this. We either accept this both ways or we do not."

 

Likewise Seb, perfectly said here. Brace yourself for six separate replies from Dani which don’t address anything you’ve written and only accuse you of ignorance and head-up-ass syndrome.

(I hope I offended someone by saying “syndrome”.)

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:17am

Seb28 said: "Also, Asian people are the global majority. Who dominate many countries and parts of the world. White people are one of the minorities. The USA is a country with a white majority, it is strange that these anti-white laws and double standards for races are allowed on Broadway. Not giving white people the same rights as the global majority. In their own white-majority country. While countries with an Asian majority have complete theatre universes where white people are rarely allowed."



You say this country is a White Majority as if that is just how the dice rolled. As if European Colonists didn't kill a good portion of the native population. As if they didn't import Slaves from Africa. You say "Their own own-white majority" country is kind of insane! Like... every word you write makes it sound like you think White people should be in power because its "Their country".

Seb and Boris are two dumb bitches reading out of Mein Kampf telling each other "Exacttttllyyyy"

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 11:17 AM

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:26am

Every race in the history of the planet has overthrown and enslaved others. This is just the place that turned out to be the one where “everyone wants their quota”. So yes, in many ways it is just a roll of the dice.

Next! 

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 11:26 AM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:27am

Seb has defended Stephen Miller, a hateful garbage person who once said “Am I the only one, who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?”. Seb said "He deserves more of your love". A man whose best friend is a violent pedophile. Imagine.

Seb is just another insecure guy who hates everyone who isn't white, straight, or male. MAGAts are the worst because they aren't even creative in their trolling which they're doing on a .....theater website. The jokes write themselves, truly.

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:32am

Sutton Ross said: "Seb has defended Stephen Miller, a hateful garbage personwho once said“Am I the only one, who issickandtiredof being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid todo it for us?”. Seb said"He deserves more of your love". A man whose best friend is a violent pedophile. Imagine.

Seb is justanother insecure guy who hates everyone who isn't white, straight, or male. MAGAtsare the worst because they aren't even creative in their trolling which they're doing on a .....theater website. The jokes write themselves, truly."

Could you please offer anything that isn’t based on someone else Seb supported and isn’t ad hominem, but rather is in response to the actual argument? 

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:46am

In a nutshell, there's nothing wrong with anyone playing a robot. Asian Actors were excited that Oliver appeared to be an opportunity for Asian men to play a romantic lead in a Broadway musical, which is relatively rare. When the first replacement for Oliver was a non-Asian male, some people were disappointed or hurt by that decision, and said so. 

 

The rest is a lotta noise. The resident Wing Nuts on the board clearly have no empathy for those in the Asian theater community, and are apparently enraged that they dared speak out. Just total contempt for an alternative view point. 

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:52am

“When the first replacement for Oliver was a non-Asian male, some people were disappointed or hurt by that decision”

But there’s no order of replacement that wouldn’t have disappointed or hurt those people. Third, sixth, tenth, it doesn’t matter. Someone would have found a way to take it the wrong way. “Oh so you’ve had enough Asians in the role and now it’s going to be a white guy?” BD Wong & Co are specialists like that. 

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 11:52 AM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:54am

BorisTomashevsky said: "Sutton Ross said: "Seb has defended Stephen Miller, a hateful garbage personwho once said“Am I the only one, who issickandtiredof being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid todo it for us?”. Seb said"He deserves more of your love". A man whose best friend is a violent pedophile. Imagine.

Seb is justanother insecure guy who hates everyone who isn't white, straight, or male. MAGAtsare the worst because they aren't even creative in their trolling which they're doing on a .....theater website. The jokes write themselves, truly."

Could you please offer anything that isn’t based on someone else Seb supportedand isn’t ad hominem, but rather is in response to the actual argument?"

Why would you need to when he's advocating for a literal white supremacist. What else is there to do? That's not an ad hominem. You are not entitled to people lowering themselves to actually engage with your white supremacy so you can feel like it's an actual accetable view point. 

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 11:58am

“MAGAtsare the worst because they aren't even creative in their trolling which they're doing on a .....theater website. The jokes write themselves, truly”

That was the ad hominem. And any historical support of any white supremacist has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. 

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 12:11pm

how in the f*ck has this thread not been locked down yet given that it long ago quit being a discussion of this show?

[bear88]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 1:24pm

As a participant in the discussion, I do think the Maybe Happy Ending casting controversy is news and worthy of conversation. There have been news stories, protests by people in the Broadway community, responses by the musical’s writers and its co-star. This thread has required a more aggressive use of the block feature than I usually employ (and even that hasn’t been aggressive enough).

The problem with this thread is that it has completely overtaken any discussion of the show itself and hasn’t been moderated so people can just write anything. 

Shouldn’t there be two separate threads - one on casting news and discussion (carefully moderated) and another on the show that people are seeing on stage?

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 01:24 PM

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 1:33pm

Why would it be locked? That’s a very authoritarian expectation. 

[hicaesar]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 2:48pm

For what it's worth - the show posted a calendar and added a few advertised dates when the unerstudies will be playing various roles.  Not sure if the idea is that ABF will do a few less shows during the run which gives the opportunity to the understudies? 

 

 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 2:49pm

TheatreFan4 said: " you think White people should be in power because its "Their country".

Seb and Boris are two dumb bitches reading out of Mein Kampf telling each other "Exacttttllyyyy""

Poor, confused, naive TheatreFan4.

Firstly, this has nothing to do with power. I ask for equality, nothing more. The same rules for all races. 

And secondly, demanding special, separate rules for certain races/groups (what you are defending) is what represents Mein Kampf. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 3:03pm

Bwaygurl2 said: "When the first replacement for Oliver was a non-Asian male, some people were disappointed or hurt by that decision, and said so.

The rest is a lotta noise. The resident Wing Nuts on the board clearly have no empathy for those in the Asian theater community, and are apparently enraged that they dared speak out. Just total contempt for an alternative view point."

If someone is hurt by equality, we have a problem. And I have great respect for the Asian theatre universe (even though white people are not allowed there) and all the opportunities they get on Broadway, for traditionally white, black, asian, basically all roles. The point is that equality is a 2 way street. You can't do what Hitler did, make it a one-way street and scream that you are offended when it stops being a one-way street.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 3:18pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "you think White people should be in power because its "Their country".

Seb and Boris are two dumb bitches reading out of Mein Kampf telling each other "Exacttttllyyyy""

Poor, confused, naive TheatreFan4.

Firstly, this has nothing to do with power.I ask for equality, nothing more.The same rules for all races.

And secondly, demanding special, separate rules for certain races/groups (what you are defending)is what represents Mein Kampf."

Okay, who is being picked up off the streets by your hero Stephen? 

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 3:30pm

TheatreFan4 said: "Okay, who is being picked up off the streets by your hero Stephen?"

You. To teach you a lesson about how to react with content related arguments instead of beating around the bush. In a way that isn’t ad hominem, but rather is in response to the actual argument.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:08pm

Seb28 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "Okay, who is being picked up off the streets by your hero Stephen?"

You. To teach you a lesson about how to react with content related argumentsinstead of beating around the bush. In a way that isn’t ad hominem, but rather is in response to the actual argument."

Yeah I know, it's such a shame for you to try and maintain that POC have all the opportunities and white people are suffering because of it while POC are literally pulled into unmarked vans off the street... yeah... but that's an ad hominem and not just... the reality of the country. 

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:16pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "Why would it be locked? That’s a very authoritarian expectation."

This is a moderated discussion board with clear guidelines.  Moderators often delete posts and sometimes lock threads.  Doing so is not at all authoritarian.

This thread could easily be locked because the content has long gone off-topic and/or because some of the posts have violated one of BWW's other clearly stated rules:

• The post is a personal attack violating BroadwayWorld rules, or contains 'trolling' type behavior.

• The post is insulting individual people, their mental state or intellect, physical appearance, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, age, or ethnicity.

• The post does not relate to the thread's topic.

• This post is about off-stage accusations, behaviours, allegations, or ongoing litigation.

• The message contains a profanity, has sexually explicit language, or details graphic violence or other illegal activities.

• The post is from a bot, fake account, regarding illegal activity, or contains ads or promotions

If people want to debate casting opportunities for people of different races and ethnicities, maybe start a thread devoted to that topic.

Updated On: 8/17/25 at 04:16 PM

[Seb28]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:18pm

TheatreFan4 said: " POC have all the opportunities and white people are suffering because of it"

Do white people have the opportunity to take over a role in stories where heritage doesn't matter for the storyline?

[BorisTomashevsky]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:23pm

SteveSanders said: "BorisTomashevsky said: "Why would it be locked? That’s a very authoritarian expectation."

This is a moderated discussion board with clear guidelines. Moderators often delete posts and sometimes lock threads. Doing so is not at all authoritarian.

This thread could easily be locks because the content has long gone off-topic and/or because many of the posts have violated this rule:

"The post is a personal attack violating BroadwayWorld rules, or contains 'trolling' type behavior. "
"

Then I’m not sure how any post by MattRogers survives the day. 

Ultimately though, this thread is getting a lot of clicks and that’s good for business. 

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:26pm

BorisTomashevsky said: "YankeeDani said: "BorisTomashevsky said:
And just because Asian actors might not get CAST, it doesn’t mean that they don’t have the same - or more - opportunities as performers of other races have."



Question: would you ever say this statement out loud in public? Serious answers only."

An audition is an opportunity. An Asian actor can audition for Asian roles, white roles, black roles, brown roles. They can audition for more roles than a white person. Even if they don’t get the job, they still have the OPPORTUNITY.

I know exactly what I’m saying, and the reasonable people here know it too."

No you're a stupid person who has no idea how the industry works. And that's not an insult. You actually have no idea how the industry works. 

[YankeeDani]

Posted: 8/17/25 at 4:29pm

Was Broadayworld always this racist? Anyone espousing the insane views of Seb and Boris would have been banned after their... 2nd or 3rd post about this years ago.