BorisTomashevsky said: "Constance Wu putting Andrew on blast to her three-quarters-of-million followers for not making a statement.He owes nobody anything. Walking on stage last night WAS his statement, as it should have been.
https://imgur.com/a/3lDyRQA"
I think this woman needs to be educated and protected against herself. I wish her all the help that she needs. What she is doing now is quite dangerous and irresponsible.
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
BorisTomashevsky said: "Only because the random nobodies breathlessly keep their victimhood brightly aflame."
Kevin, since you can’t reply with words I have to assume you can’t read this, but I never said I was a victim. I’m not a victim, and they’re not victims. There are no victims.
Understudy Joined: 3/12/14
This thread is a GD mess.
How are the mods deleting posts right away in other threads that “aren’t on topic,” but THIS sh*t has been going on for weeks now?
ER765 said: "This thread is a GD mess."
BWW at its worst.
ER765 said: "This thread is a GD mess."
No. This thread is a wonderful discussion related to MHE.
The discussion about the racist attacks on white actors has been moved to another thread, but this last bit was about a social media post someone made specifically about this show again, so Boris posted it here.
Feel free to post MHE related things here too instead of just whining.
Seb28 said: "ER765 said: "This thread is a GD mess."
No. This thread is a wonderful discussion related to MHE.
The discussion about the racist attacks on white actors has been moved to another thread, but this last bit was about a social media post someone made specifically about this show again, so Boris posted it here.
Feel free to post MHE related things here too instead of just whining."
If you think this is a “wonderful discussion” please seek psychiatric assistance immediately. Also, have you been promoted to a moderator, telling people where and what to post? And finally, it was so sweet of you to defend your white supremacist boyfriend. Keep up the good work!!!!
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
In some ways this thread illustrates why Kamala lost the election. The Republicans made such a big deal about the 'wokeness' of the Democratic party, and they had a not-entirely-wrong argument that the Dems were focusing a little too much on issues that most people in the country don't care about. They needed to focus more on issues that impacted everyone.
While I am a proud Democrat, I do believe that they get carried away sometimes, and I think a lot of the views on this board have been carried away.
NOTE: this is not to say that i share those opinions, although I think this general subject, i.e., who should be allowed to play what roles, has been beaten to death.
Reductively interpolating the complex dynamics that defined the presidential election into a discussion of a Broadway recast is specious at best. As a 22-year veteran of this site I can assuredly state: it will lead to further - and useless to those seeking a respite - politicization and ad hominem critique. I leave it there.
Matt Rogers said: "If you think this is a “wonderful discussion” please seek psychiatric assistance immediately. Also, have you been promoted to a moderator, telling people where and what to post? And finally, it was so sweet of you to defend your white supremacist boyfriend. Keep up the good work!!!!"
Me saying "feel free to post MHE related things here" and "please post subject-related replies" and "the other discussion has moved to another thread" is because I respect the board and I am trying to get you to behave.
Because this is really not acceptable:
Matt Rogers said: "garbage!!....Lunatics!.....Sit down fools!!....You are trash!!....I hate white...You are a freakshow!!...Morons!!!...Jackasses!!! "
Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "If you think this is a “wonderful discussion” please seek psychiatric assistance immediately. Also, have you been promoted to a moderator, telling people where and what to post? And finally, it was so sweet of you to defend your white supremacist boyfriend. Keep up the good work!!!!"
For me saying "feel free to post MHE related things here" and "please post subject-related replies" and "the other discussion has moved to another thread"?
I don't think they will mind that.
I do wonder what they think of this though:
Matt Rogers said: "garbage!!....Lunatics!.....Sit down fools!!....You are trash!!....I hate white...You are a freakshow!!...Morons!!!...Jackasses!!!""
“I hate white”? There is something wrong with you.
Matt Rogers said: "“I hate white”? There is something wrong with you."
I literally copied parts of all your dirt from the whole thread. I don't know what came behind that but you really typed it. Forgive me for not paying too much attention to it. Have a nice evening.
Can you post subject-related replies too?
Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "If you think this is a “wonderful discussion” please seek psychiatric assistance immediately. Also, have you been promoted to a moderator, telling people where and what to post? And finally, it was so sweet of you to defend your white supremacist boyfriend. Keep up the good work!!!!"
For me saying "feel free to post MHE related things here" and "please post subject-related replies" and "the other discussion has moved to another thread"?
I don't think they will mind that.
I do wonder what they think of this though:
Matt Rogers said: "garbage!!....Lunatics!.....Sit down fools!!....You are trash!!....I hate white...You are a freakshow!!...Morons!!!...Jackasses!!!""
“I hate white”? There is something wrong with you."
I literally copied parts of all your dirt from the whole thread. I don't know what came behind that but you really typed it. Forgive for not paying too much attention to it. Have a nice evening.
Can you post subject-related replies too?"
Hag, you are repulsive. You are supposedly an Asian, and you are campaigning all over this board for less Asian roles on Broadway. I think I’m going to puke.
Stand-by Joined: 6/10/09
Semi related - their new marketing is a mess. It wasn't at all great before but now, woof. Has a best musical winner with such poignance and sophistication ever been so unaided? The artwork of Claire / Oliver with their backs to the viewer as to not show their race now is...not a subtle choice given the current upheaval.
Matt Rogers said: "Hag, you are repulsive. You are supposedly an Asian, and you are campaigning all over this board for less Asian roles on Broadway. I think I’m going to puke."
In any case there is no need to demand more roles at this point. Asian people with good intentions just don't want to stab white people in the back by engaging in this racist act, like the mob with bad intentions does in the MHE situation. Equity should always be a two-way street. If any percentage is off, it's theirs. But we are discussing this in the other thread.
matineeidol2591 said: "The artwork of Claire / Oliver with their backs to the viewer as to not show their race now is...not a subtle choice given the current upheaval."
I think they adjusted the artwork on purpose. Unfortunately it's necessary nowadays. It's a white actor who could not do promotional activities because of his race, who needed to downplay the taking over of the role because of his race and who is being attacked because of his race. While the role description says "All Ethnicities" and "Robot". Dangerous times.
Seb28 said: "matineeidol2591 said: "The artwork of Claire / Oliver with their backs to the viewer as to not show their race now is...not a subtle choice given the current upheaval."
I think they adjusted the artwork on purpose. Unfortunately it's necessary nowadays. It's a whiteactor who couldnot do promotional activities because of his race, who needed to downplay the taking over of the role because of his race and who is being attacked because of his race. While the role description says "All Ethnicities" and "Robot". Dangerous times."
Good ol’ Uncle Tom.
The ads with the drastically reduced figures and backs to the audience feel designed to de-emphasize Criss without outright announcing his absence. Okay, fair enough. To a point. This tracks with refusing to announce the recast on the show's website as late at 2 p.m. on Labor Day, circa 36 hours before his first performance. Feldman's casting with a photo didn't appear on the webpage promoting ticket sales until Tuesday (this inspired a full real time thread on ATC, documenting the timeline; check it out). It's been dreadfully handled, by any yardstick, and it is not the fault of any of the actors (with the caveat that Criss is a producer).
This is an achingly beautiful show, one that appeals to every demographic. My friends from Arizona in their early 80s saw it April and pronounced it the best of 6 shows seen on their annual trip. It has had a groundswell of good will, through the Tonys. Considering the dearth of shows that are both artistic and commercial successes, all of this is as heartbreaking as it is maddening.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/27/19
If it hasn't been noted, Shen was out tonight; Hannah Kevitt was on as Claire. Hopefully no one bought tickets just to see a real-life couple (one of the supposed justifications for ABF's casting) and was disappointed.
Swing Joined: 2/13/25
I went to see maybe happy ending around two weeks ago, and it was amazing. I know people are all talking about the drama with ABF, but since this thread is called MAYBE HAPPY ENDING reviews, I give it a 5 star, 10/10 etc. It was quite emotional, while also being quite funny at the same time. Darren Criss and Helen J Shen had an amazing chemistry. I can't wait to go see it again with ABF as Oliver. My personal opinion is that the actors are wearing so much stage makeup that race doesn't really matter, at least aesthetically. If ABF is talented then I have no complaints.
Updated On: 9/4/25 at 10:46 PMSwing Joined: 9/17/24
They've added a new bunch of tickets on Telecharge - now on sale through July 19, 2026! It also lists Darren as being in until February 1st, so three months from his return (nothing about the other actors).
Stand-by Joined: 3/17/09
Seb28 said: "ER765 said: "This thread is a GD mess."
No. This thread is a wonderful discussion related to MHE.
The discussion about the racist attacks on white actors has been moved to another thread, but this last bit was about a social media post someone made specifically about this show again, so Boris posted it here.
Feel free to post MHE related things here too instead of just whining."
Are YOU of all people really telling someone ELSE to stay on topic? You’re insufferable. Get a life.
abcd12 said: Seb28 said "No. This thread is a wonderful discussion related to MHE.
Feel free to post MHE related things here too instead of just whining."
Are YOU of all people really telling someone ELSE to stay on topic? You’re insufferable. Get a life."
MHE is the topic. I point out that the rest has been moved to another thread. What do you not understand?
fray3 said: "My personal opinion is that the actors are wearing so much stage makeup that race doesn't really matter [...]"
Race is mistakenly being injected into the conversation. The characters are robots.
Part of the enjoyment of the show happens when the audience allow themselves to anthropomorphize the robots. ...but they are still robots, and like a spoon, or a chair, have no claim to ethnic origin.
It is impossible for the characters to actually be Korean, Scandinavian, African, or ANY ethnicity unless the audience chooses it to be so, as part of the anthropomorphization they create in their minds.
Any actor (regardless of ethnicity) that facilitates that anthropomorphization process for an audience should be eligible to play the role.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/27/19
John Adams said: "Any actor (regardless of ethnicity) that facilitates that anthropomorphization process for an audience should be eligible to play the role.
Funny how that only applies in situations to keep roles available for white actors. As has repeatedly been stated, the industry refuses to consider talented Asian actors for many other roles that any talented actor (regardless of ethnicity) could be eligible to play. But when it's a robot in South Korea, anyone should be allowed to play it!
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