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Seb28 said: "MemorableUserName said: "That would be the ultimate goal.If it's coming up now regarding this show...maybe it's because this is the only show set in Asia currently on Broadway?"
So shows such as the Lion King, set in Africa should immediately fire all the white actors who play the fictional non-human characters such as Zazu, Scar and Timon?
And a show set in Austria can have no Asian people in fictional non-human rolesthen? Or is that when you change your principles again, back to a one-way street? And you suddenly wish it includes Asian people too? This kind of evil is just chilling.
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“Evil”? Please go touch some grass. “Evil.” Give me a break.
Seb28 said: "Auggie27 said: "Literally nothing about this show and how it is cast makes this statement credible."
Literally the same post describes an example."
There must be a pathetic right wing chat board somewhere that is missing its two most pathetic members.
Yeah Asian people are just so equal right now. I absolutely don't have multiple patients who have flags on their charts for hurling Racial slurs at Asian doctors or spraying Asian Doctors with Lysol. Absolutely do not have them because things are just sooooo equal. But pushing for Racial Equity on Broadway? Now THAT'S the true evil. Definitely.
TheatreFan4 said: "Yeah Asian people are just so equal right now. I absolutely don't have multiple patients who have flags on their charts for hurling Racial slurs at Asian doctors or spraying Asian Doctors with Lysol. Absolutely do not have them because things are just sooooo equal. But pushing for Racial Equity on Broadway? Now THAT'S the true evil. Definitely."
What do attacks from minority “bad actors” have to do with equality in employment? And it sounds like there are Asians in your workplace, so there are opportunities for them, no? This seems like an own-goal.
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Normally I would be onboard the "don't quote the trolls" train, but thank you to the above for letting me know Seb28 (who I blocked long before this thread, when they were being wildly racist in another one; I think either the Gypsy or Sunset thread) lacks reading comprehension skills in addition to their many other problems.
The comment I posted as an image was simply this: "Until Asians have the same access to non-race-specific roles that others do, the least we can do is cast Asians in stories set in Asia."
Seb28: That's evil. You don't want white people in The Lion King!
So...Asians should not have the same access to non-race-specific roles that others do, AND should not be cast in stories set in Asia. And somehow white people are again the victims...while Andrew Barth Feldman plays the lead in a musical set in South Korea.
(Seb28, here's a hint: swapping Black performers, or white performers, or many others into that statement doesn't work because they don't lack access to non-race-specific roles the way Asian performers do, so there's no reason to say "the least we can do... " They're already getting more than that bare minimum that Asian performers are not.)
kdogg36 said: "Seb28 said: "This is a nauseating and slippery path and this overton window must be shattered today."
So, what are you doing again to rectify the fact that white people have been significantly over-represented in every congressional election since 1788?"
This is exactly why this is a Sisyphean task. Taking a fine tooth comb and making sure everything is equal will never ever be possible. There will be more time spent managing society than actually living in and enjoying society. People are going to run for office if they want to run. People are going to vote for them if they want to.
Will someone suddenly be racist if they don’t vote for enough of each race?
There will be no end to it.
BorisTomashevsky said: "What do attacks from minority “bad actors”have to do with equality in employment? And it sounds like there are Asians in your workplace, so there are opportunities for them, no? This seems like an own-goal."
I'm referring to the absurdity on what we're calling "Evil" in this thread, but I'm done with engaging with you. You want attention like a child and its why you continue to just spout outlandish statements. You just want someone to pay attention to you because nobody does in your actual life. How sad.
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Birdie Boy said: "Has anyone seen him??"
There's a report on the Bway Reddit sub - in short, they thought he better captured the opening sequence than Darren, and overall had a lot of similarities to how Darren plays it, but came into his own by the show's end. Sounds like a positive review!
BorisTomashevsky said: "kdogg36 said: So, what are you doing again to rectify the fact that white people have been significantly over-represented in every congressional election since 1788?"
This is exactly why this is a Sisyphean task. Taking a fine tooth comb and making sure everything is equal will never ever be possible. "
Good to know you're not even trying now. I'll ignore you from here on out.
kdogg36 said: "Seb28 said: "This is a nauseating and slippery path and this overton window must be shattered today."
So, what are you doing again to rectify the fact that white people have been significantly over-represented in every congressional election since 1788?"
What a rotten mindset. This is not about revenge. Your desire to kick the last white person out of a Broadway show in a 90%+ asian cast is not "rectifying".
TheatreFan4 said: "But pushing for Racial Equity on Broadway? Now THAT'S the true evil. Definitely."
Pushing for racial equity would be pushing for less poc on Broadway at this point. The percentages are completely skewed, as we have discussed and shown before. Now that we have passed the factual, measurable point of equity, now that we've completely shot past the finish line, what is your plan to reverse that, to level it out again so we can have actual equity? For example, in this show with a 90%+ asian cast, why do you not celebrate that but instead go after the last white person with an axe? This is about the amount of work opportunities, not about vanity and role types.
iluvtheatertrash said: "“Evil”? Please go touch some grass. “Evil.” Give me a break."
Yes, "good intentions" can be evil. Is that new for you? Racism is racism, regardless of the perpetrator's skin color.
MemorableUserName said: "thank you to the above for letting me know Seb28 (who I blocked long before this thread" "
Deliberately disconnecting from reality and then thanking people for bringing you back to it and then choosing to stay disconnected from it is quite worrying.
MemorableUserName said: ""Until Asians have the same access to non-race-specific roles that others do, the least we can do is cast Asians in stories set in Asia.So...Asians should not have the same access to non-race-specific roles that others do, AND should not be cast in stories set in Asia"."
This kind of manipulation does not work anymore. The percentages of Asian people versus white people working on Broadway are completely skewed. Not only compared to the country's population, also compared to the New York state population. And we all know that not only people from New York audition for Broadway shows. This means that Asian people have statistically much more work opportunities on Broadway than white people do. This is the opposite of equity. We have given countless examples of asian people taking over roles from white people on Broadway. There are no examples of the other way around. And whenever it happens once, such as in this situation, a 90%+ asian cast with one white person, the attacks begin. This is not about excluding asians, this is about excluding another race of choice, until the last person is erased. You can't even celebrate a 90% asian cast. That says a lot about your intentions.
MemorableUserName said: "
(Seb28, here's a hint:swapping Black performers, or white performers, or many others into that statement doesn't work because they don't lack access to non-race-specific roles the way Asian performers do, so there's no reason to say "the least we can do... " They're already getting more than that bare minimum that Asian performers are not.)"
These mental gymnastics are insane. Like I said, it is about the amount of work opportunities, not the vanity of types of roles. Both asian and black performers are enormously privileged in this on Broadway. The percentages speak for themselves. White people can only dream of that kind of ratio of work opportunities. What you are basically saying here is that you completely disregard the actual amount of work opportunities and that black performers are even more privileged than asian people because next to the unreasonably large amount of work opportunities both groups have, the type of roles in terms of vanity that black people get is more alluring and asian people want that too, so therefore it is ok to attack the last white person in a 90%+ asian cast. Wow.
And my Lion King example was spot on. You can never ever demand things like that. Especially not when "All ethnicities" and "Non-human" was in the role description.
Can Tim Minchin write a sequel to Groundhog Day using this thread as source material?
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I started a thread where these broader discussions about equity and equality on Broadway more rightly belong instead of here. Could we please get back to talking about MHE?
Seb not only makes perfect sense but he actually responded to others, comment for comment. What a novel thing that is around here instead of just a wholesale “You’re insane!” personal attack which we get constantly.
(Moved to Steve’s Equity & Equality thread.)
You mean that this thread will finally get back on track for the actual discussion of the show? I'm being cautiously optimistic.
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Huss417 said: "You mean that this thread will finally get back on track for the actual discussion of the show? I'm being cautiously optimistic."
Head over to the MHE Facebook page for photos of Andrew, and a comments section below the photos where people still can’t help denying him the role (even after all that’s been laid out by the authors especially). There’s even an entirely white man saying the casting is totally offensive. Isn’t it racist to acquire offense on behalf of a race that isn’t your own?
What’s nice to see is a larger number of voices supporting Andrew, and even a half Asian man who says the casting doesn’t bother him. That’s sure to give Molly in the comments section a short circuit.
Editing to add: the Instagram post with Andrew’s photos also has all the comments one would expect!
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BorisTomashevsky said: "Head over to the MHE Facebook page for photos of Andrew, and a comments section below the photos where people still can’t help denying him the role (even after all that’s been laid out by the authors especially). There’s even an entirely white man saying the casting is totally offensive. Isn’t it racist to acquire offense on behalf of a race that isn’t your own?
Umm...what's an "entirely white man"?
A man who isn’t half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth, thirty fourth, sixty second etc anything other race.
Constance Wu putting Andrew on blast to her three-quarters-of-million followers for not making a statement. He owes nobody anything. Walking on stage last night WAS his statement, as it should have been.
https://imgur.com/a/3lDyRQA
More from Constance Wu!
No surprises enclosed.
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The way Boris has to run here to breathlessly report on what a random nobody said on Facebook in an effort to try to reignite the argument is pathetic.
Only because the random nobodies breathlessly keep their victimhood brightly aflame.
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