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#51

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

GeorgeandDot said: "AC126748 said: "Had Mary-Louise Parker or someone like that replaced Metcalf, I don't think they would have a problem, but they have no clue who White is. That is a bit of a problem.

It's a good thing producing decisions aren't made just to accommodate your handful of friends.


No, but they should be made in such a way that will make the show money. People from out of town won't be pouring into the Golden to see White.



Maybe they won't and maybe it won't last till January. But unless you are an investor in the show, your level of outrage at this is a bit overdone.

#53

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

I'm not outraged at all.

Don't be disingenuous. You essentially accused the production of doing a bait and switch.


"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#54

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

^O, no. I accused Rudin of that. Not the show or the performers. Just Rudin, but I'm certainly not outraged.

Updated On: 7/5/17 at 03:34 PM

#56

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

If we were to judge Rudin's actions (and I'm not...I don't care), I'd say this is low on the list of sleaze.

And I think Mary-Louise Parker (who is terrific) is not ideal for this part. Annette Bening? Perhaps.

Julie White is a Tony-winning actress. If that's not good enough for the people you know...well...

#57

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

IDK. I don't like Rudin. He seems like an A-hole because of how he acts with some of his shows. I don't love his elitism.

Also, I only mentioned Parker because someone else did. I'm not so sure that she would be my first pick.

Updated On: 7/5/17 at 03:39 PM

#58

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

I'm not so sure how many tickets the original cast sold...at least on their names. The play took off because word-of-mouth was sensational, as were many of the reviews.

For all his faults (and I've heard the stories cause I know people that have worked for him), Rudin produces fantastic theater. This play is a showcase for four terrific stage actors...which is what the production is continuing.

#59

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

From Deadline, June 5, 2017:

In an exclusive interview with Deadline, producer Scott Rudin said this afternoon that most of the show’s Tony-nominated cast would be replaced for the extension. “As with any extension, there will be a recasting,” Rudin said. “We will get a few more weeks with this cast.”

http://deadline.com/2017/06/broadway-box-office-dips-a-dolls-house-part-2-extends-1202107730/



They are not, however, getting "a few more weeks with this cast". And I'm guessing they knew that well in advance of the announcement today.

#60

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

PepperedShepherd said: "They are not, however, getting "a few more weeks with this cast". And I'm guessing they knew that well in advance of the announcement today."

How is June 5 through July 23 not "a few more weeks"?

#61

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

I'm not a fan of Rudin either, but no one has been duped here. Never had it been promised anywhere that the original cast would be continuing through the extension. And Metcalf isn't a load-bearing star name.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#62

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

haterobics said: "PepperedShepherd said: "They are not, however, getting "a few more weeks with this cast". And I'm guessing they knew that well in advance of the announcement today."

How is June 5 through July 23 not "a few more weeks"?
"

Because the original run was through July 23. That's how.

#63

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

Yes, Rudin is a sleaze bag. He knew the cast was leaving when he announced the extension, and when Metcalf won the Tony, lots of tickets were sold on that basis. The Telecharge site says nothing about a new cast. I thought I had time to see this, perhaps during the summer, but now I had to race to see this cast, and I live out of town. Love Julie White, and might see it again when she takes over, but of course I want to see the Tony-winning performance.

Sleaze bag. Always was and always will be.

#64

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

Not a fan of Rudin, but I think the reaction to this is a bit much. Productions announce extensions frequently, and it's not always a give-in that the cast will remain the same. Anyone who is a big enough Metcalf fan to have bought tickets should have known that shooting the ROSANNE reboot in the fall made this extension impossible for her.


"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
#65

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

PepperedShepherd said: "haterobics said: "PepperedShepherd said: "They are not, however, getting "a few more weeks with this cast". And I'm guessing they knew that well in advance of the announcement today."

How is June 5 through July 23 not "a few more weeks"?
"

Because the original run was through July 23. That's how.
"

I think you're misinterpreting what he is saying. If on June 5, he announces the extension, but notes the original cast will still be around for a few more weeks, well... they were still playing for 7 more weeks at that point. You seem to be deciding he meant a few more weeks AFTER their original end date, which he never said.

#66

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

Announcing an extension and Metcalf's WIN... people bought tickets to see her and the original production-cast that received accolades not a replacement cast that nobody knows...unfortunately, this won't last now!


"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new." Sunday in the Park with George
#67

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

I'm honestly baffled by this outrage. This cast CHOSE to leave when they were contracted. They were definitely given the option to extend (as evidenced by Houdyshell's extension) and 3/4 said "No." They obviously also just came to this conclusion last week, as evidenced by Julie White suddenly withdrawing from a concert she had only been announced for the week before that. You can hate Rudin all you want, but this shouldn't be one of the reasons. And the casting change certainly shouldn't change your mind either. If White had opened the show instead of Metcalf, no one would've said boo and she likely would've been nominated for/won the Tony. Not to discredit Laurie Metcalf, but she was given a ripe part and ran with it in a similar way I imagine Julie White would have and, in fact, will. Same goes for the other incoming replacements.

#68

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

I don't think people are upset with the cast for leaving or for Rudin not trying to keep them past their contract, but rather that he was well aware of when they were leaving and withheld that information. He made it sound like the cast would be staying until mid-August. People want to see the Tony winning star in the lead role. I stay incredibly up to date on Broadway news and I was even surprised that they were leaving so early. I also read that interview and it gave me the false impression that they would be extending for a few weeks past July 23. I wasn't expecting that promise of a few weeks to turn into a couple of days. It just feels a little sleazy to me. I have a hard time believing that, that wasn't intentional.

#69

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

What happened is you misread the article. When he said they'd be around for a few more week he meant from the day of the interview till when they were contracted for, which was indeed a few more weeks. He didn't mean a few extra weeks from the original closing date. You misread it and are projecting onto it. There was no "promise". Nothing about this is sleazy.

Updated On: 7/6/17 at 08:21 PM

#70

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

haterobics said: "PepperedShepherd said: "haterobics said: "PepperedShepherd said: "They are not, however, getting "a few more weeks with this cast". And I'm guessing they knew that well in advance of the announcement today."

How is June 5 through July 23 not "a few more weeks"?
"

Because the original run was through July 23. That's how.
"

I think you're misinterpreting what he is saying. If on June 5, he announces the extension, but notes the original cast will still be around for a few more weeks, well... they were still playing for 7 more weeks at that point. You seem to be deciding he meant a few more weeks AFTER their original end date, which he never said.
"

And I think you're twisting yourself into a pretzel just to be contrary. You're trying to make a statement that "We will get the cast for a few more weeks" mean "We still have this cast for another month and a half." A month and a half is NOT a few more weeks.

The interview was given before the Tony Awards. Why wouldn't he just say "we're extending, and we will have to recast, but we will still have this cast for the next month and a half before that happens" if that's what he meant.

Also, that's not the only article where Rubin expresses his similar hope/belief that the cast will stay for "a few more weeks" beyond the original July 23rd close. Both the Washington Post and the Chicago Sun Times had similar statements from him when the extension was announced. Reading all of them there is no doubt that he was talking about having the cast for a "few more weeks" beyond the original June 23 closing date and not from the date of the interview.

I really don't think I'm the one doing the misinterpreting here. You seem to be deciding that he really meant a month and a half when he said "a few more weeks" in several articles.

#71

METCALF, COOPER, RASHAD leaving A DOLL'S HOUSE PART 2

From the Washington Post article announcing the extension in early June:

"The current cast is only contracted to perform through July 25, but Rudin said he is hoping that they will extend their contracts for at least a few weeks beyond that. In any event, the producer said he will recast the roles if he has to, to accommodate the extension."

The first article was somewhat ambiguous and could legitimately be interpreted in multiple ways. But this removes all ambiguity and if he was trying to deceive he wouldn't be as clear as this.

There you have it. He hopes they could extend but didn't know for sure and will recast if he has to. No guarantees or promises made. Can't be clearer than that, can it? If it matters that much to you to see the original cast and you know there will likely be a cast change but a definitive start date for the new cast or who it will be hasn't been announced, if you go ahead and book post July 25 based on a statement as non-committal as this and assume the cast will extend a few weeks when even the lead producer says he isn't sure, you have no one to blame but yourself. Of course, if you hate the guy, you'll make it fit your narrative and see what you want to see.

Updated On: 7/7/17 at 01:30 AM

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