#1
Posted: 10/3/10 at 3:20pm
I am seeing the show again in a few weeks. Why are people saying that Marin is better then Alice??? Very curious to hear peoples opinions.
#2
Posted: 10/3/10 at 3:40pm
There are already a lot of threads that address this. I'm not sure people have the energy left to go over this again. Here's one that should help:
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?
boardid=1&boardname=bway&thread=1020274#4055747
Both are worth seeing. With Alice's Diana, the emphasis was on crazy. With Marin, the emphasis is more on Diana's pain.
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?
boardid=1&boardname=bway&thread=1020274#4055747
Both are worth seeing. With Alice's Diana, the emphasis was on crazy. With Marin, the emphasis is more on Diana's pain.
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#3
Posted: 10/3/10 at 3:41pm
There is no reason to use word "versus" in the subject line.
They are two gifted actresses. One is not "against" the other.
You could just as easily have titles the thread "Marin and Alice."
They are two gifted actresses. One is not "against" the other.
You could just as easily have titles the thread "Marin and Alice."
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#4
Posted: 10/3/10 at 3:41pm
She' not. Marin does a great job, but Alice gave a benchmark performance. Marin's crazy mouth antics are so distracting that it's difficult to pay attention to her performance. Marin is playing a role, Alice WAS the role. It is still a wonderful, complete, brilliantly crafted piece of theater!
#5
Posted: 10/3/10 at 3:58pm
I've seen three different Diana's (Alice, Jessica, and Marin) and I have loved the performances of all of them. They all bring their own take to the role and make you see a different side of the character. As for personal opinion, I rather enjoyed Marin's performance (as a whole, the singing and the emotional acting) a bit more than Alice's. Whether or not she's 'better' is total opinion, since they were all amazing.
#6
Posted: 10/3/10 at 4:32pm
Alice Ripley gave a phenomenal performance. Just phenomenal. And Marin Mazzie is equally phenomenal. So there's not comparing. They're both excellent.
#7
Posted: 10/3/10 at 4:39pm
I've seen them both. They are both wonderful. People were saying that Marin and Jason would erase the memories of the OC. They didn't. I LIKED Alice, Brian and Bobby better.
I'm seeing the show again in a few weeks, happy to do so. (Although I'm rooting for an understudy or two -- just to mix it up.)
I'm seeing the show again in a few weeks, happy to do so. (Although I'm rooting for an understudy or two -- just to mix it up.)
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#8
Posted: 10/3/10 at 6:20pm
The only understudy I have seen in this cast is Brian who went on for Kyle. I thought he did great. I've also seen Michael Berry as Dan and the doctors, but now sure if he's still understudying them. Have fun Mama! When are you going?
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#9
Posted: 10/3/10 at 6:22pm
Um....the 16th, I think.
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#10
Posted: 10/3/10 at 7:05pm
I've seen Marin, Jessica, and Alice, and all three gave wonderful and totally different performances...for me it's almost impossible to compare them. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Alice personally, but all three women are exceptionally talented and great in the part.
#11
Posted: 10/3/10 at 7:10pm
I find it hard to compare them because their portrayals are so different and they both completely work. I think it just comes down to personal preference. I give Alice the edge personally, but I can easily see why people prefer Marin.
#13
Posted: 10/3/10 at 9:38pm
Marin is playing a role, Alice WAS the role.
Bingo.
Marin sings the role; Alice warbles the role.
Marin sings the role like it's a Rodgers and Hammerstein show.
Bingo.
Marin sings the role; Alice warbles the role.
Marin sings the role like it's a Rodgers and Hammerstein show.
#14
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:10pm
Marin was the role too when I saw her. Not in the way that Alice was, but that's because she's not Alice. Marin's portrayal is very different. She's much more sad and introspective, and not really crazy. I wish she'd add a little bit more to it at times, but overall her subtlety was very refreshing. Alice's performance was so intense (in a good way) that she overshadowed the show. Marin lets the show speak for itself.
The only time her singing bothered me was in "I Am the One," though I do wish she'd turn down the vibrato. Alice's singing usually worked for me too because she made it fit the character. Jessica Phillips was by far the best vocally, IMO. I love what I've seen of her portrayal and I hope she gets to do the role full-time at some point.
The only time her singing bothered me was in "I Am the One," though I do wish she'd turn down the vibrato. Alice's singing usually worked for me too because she made it fit the character. Jessica Phillips was by far the best vocally, IMO. I love what I've seen of her portrayal and I hope she gets to do the role full-time at some point.
#15
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:13pm
Mazzie sings notes in tune that Ripley could never ever hit. I loved Ripley, but sometimes the vocals were just not pleasant.
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#16
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:28pm
Alice...too amazing for words.
Marin...Equal to Alice, however she sometimes sings as if she has a vibrator in her throat (akin to Sean Hayes in Promises, Promises)
Marin...Equal to Alice, however she sometimes sings as if she has a vibrator in her throat (akin to Sean Hayes in Promises, Promises)
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#17
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:30pm
he sometimes sings as if she has a vibrator in her throat (akin to Sean Hayes in Promises, Promises)
It's called vibrato. Sean Hayes has a quiver. Please do not compare the classically trained Mazzie to the untrained Hayes. Please.
It's called vibrato. Sean Hayes has a quiver. Please do not compare the classically trained Mazzie to the untrained Hayes. Please.
#18
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:34pm
Mazzie sings notes in tune that Ripley could never ever hit. I loved Ripley, but sometimes the vocals were just not pleasant.
Especially toward the end of her run. Yikes. I saw her in late June and it was almost painful to listen to.
Alice Ripley was phenomenal, don't get me wrong. I thought she was great. But I much prefer Marin Mazzie in the role. Ripley was overpowering, sometimes for the wrong reasons. With Mazzie, it was just far more poignant for me (and beautifully sung).
Especially toward the end of her run. Yikes. I saw her in late June and it was almost painful to listen to.
Alice Ripley was phenomenal, don't get me wrong. I thought she was great. But I much prefer Marin Mazzie in the role. Ripley was overpowering, sometimes for the wrong reasons. With Mazzie, it was just far more poignant for me (and beautifully sung).
#19
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:46pm
Didn't adamgreer once completely trash the standby's performance, causing her to write something on Facebook about it, then completely reversed his opinion the next time he saw her go on?
#20
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:50pm
"It's called vibrato. Sean Hayes has a quiver. Please do not compare the classically trained Mazzie to the untrained Hayes. Please."
I'm very aware it's a vibrato. It just sounds the same to me.
I'm very aware it's a vibrato. It just sounds the same to me.
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#21
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:50pm
"Didn't adamgreer once completely trash the standby's performance..."
Are we talking about Jessica here? Because I saw Jessica my first go-round and absolutely LOVED her.
Are we talking about Jessica here? Because I saw Jessica my first go-round and absolutely LOVED her.
#22
Posted: 10/3/10 at 10:59pm
Didn't adamgreer once completely trash the standby's performance, causing her to write something on Facebook about it, then completely reversed his opinion the next time he saw her go on?
Jessica Phillips' first Broadway performance (which I attended- the night after the Tonys) was an unqualified disaster. I stand by that opinion. But, she improved greatly, and when I saw her again, I was happy to eat my words and post about how much I enjoyed her. I came to love her performance, and think she absolutely should have been offered the role full-time after Alice left. I'd kill to see her play the role again now.
Jessica Phillips' first Broadway performance (which I attended- the night after the Tonys) was an unqualified disaster. I stand by that opinion. But, she improved greatly, and when I saw her again, I was happy to eat my words and post about how much I enjoyed her. I came to love her performance, and think she absolutely should have been offered the role full-time after Alice left. I'd kill to see her play the role again now.
Updated On: 10/3/10 at 10:59 PM
#23
Posted: 10/3/10 at 11:04pm
"Jessica Phillips' first Broadway performance (the night after the Tonys) was an unqualified disaster. I stand by that opinion. But, she improved greatly, and when I saw her again, I was happy to eat my words and post about how much I enjoyed her."
I heard this opinion from a couple of people. It's sort of my experience with Michael Berry. I heard some stuff from him from his first night on, and was not impressed in the least. However, when I got to see him live on the show, I was VERY impressed and happy to, as you said, eat my words. So I do understand where adamgreer is coming from with this.
I heard this opinion from a couple of people. It's sort of my experience with Michael Berry. I heard some stuff from him from his first night on, and was not impressed in the least. However, when I got to see him live on the show, I was VERY impressed and happy to, as you said, eat my words. So I do understand where adamgreer is coming from with this.
#24
Posted: 10/4/10 at 2:40am
Look they are professionals have not seen the show but can we stop comparing actors that do the same rolls look this one is better . Look one one a tony award but at the end of the day it is a hard role to play and very demanding. If they did the role first on Broadway we would of tonyed Marin and not Alice.
#25
Posted: 10/4/10 at 3:14am
Marin is much better
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