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Michael Riedel: "This Is The Next Musical Tyne Daly Needs To Do"

http://nypost.com/2015/06/23/this-is-the-next-big-musical-tyne-daly-needs-to-do/   He would like Tyne Daly to do "Dear World."    NY Post.com


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Michael Riedel:

Saw the original with Lansbury. It would be a tough sell on Broadway due to the subject matter. Agreed the score is fine but doubt it would succeed any more than the original. 


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Michael Riedel:

He doesn't have anything better to write about, so now he's dream casting? Oof.
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Michael Riedel:

Well, he can only write about so many shows coming next season that are going to be bigger than Hamilton...
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Michael Riedel:

Is Daly that much of a draw over Angela Lansbury? If Lansburys name could not sell it after Mame, how much better would Daly do? She is not bringing in a ton of people for ISHBY. It is easier to sell a show with this story that  it would be trying to sell the story behind Dear World. I remember that the original was a dreary affair.


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Michael Riedel:

Why is anyone hunting musicals for Tyne Daly?  She should go back to her strengths which is drama and leave the musicals for those who can sing.


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Michael Riedel:

I don't think Daly is much of a "draw" at all… see: Mothers & Sons/It Shoulda Been You/majority of anything else she's been in aside from limited runs at non-profits.
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Michael Riedel:

"Well, he can only write about so many shows coming next season that are going to be bigger than Hamilton..."


 Was JUST going to write this! 

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Michael Riedel:

It might be ... interesting to see the Countess Aurelia played as a truck driver with no vibrato.

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Michael Riedel:

Daly did not do too badly with Gypsy. She surprised a lot of people with her performance


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#11

Michael Riedel:

Where is the Mack & Mabel playing this year in London?

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Michael Riedel:

"It might be ... interesting to see the Countess Aurelia played as a truck driver with no vibrato."


 That was just plain rude.

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Michael Riedel:

Maybe next year at Encores?


Betty Buckley recently did a production of this show and she's the person I'd love to see in a full scale NY revival. 

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Michael Riedel:

I saw Betty Buckley do it in London and it was sublime. Sublime. Can't imagine Tyne in the role. 

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Michael Riedel:

Isn't Jerry Herman super strict about his shows not being done at Encores! because he thinks they need full productions?

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Michael Riedel:

Yes. In other words, he's delusional. He should be so lucky as to get a first class mounting of MACK AND MABEL or DEAR WORLD from Encores!. (Also, perhaps he'd get a commercial Broadway run out of a successful Encores! production.) Both shows are mixed bags-- one was attached to the wrong songwriter and the wrong director, and the other was attached to the wrong everyone except for Angela Lansbury... 


Don't get me wrong, there are lovely things in both. DEAR WORLD has some gorgeous ballads and that daffy tea party sequence. But then there are the putrid up tempos, including the awful title song that even Hallmark would be embarrassed to put on on a greeting card. MACK AND MABEL, too, has some really good stuff, particularly when it comes to the female lead. But at the end of the day, I think it should have been a Kander and Ebb/Hal Prince collaboration, not a Gower Champion extravaganza. 


I'm still holding out for a revival of my favorite, and the best Jerry Herman show-- MAME. It just need to have the right lady at the helm, and there's no one "bankable" enough nowadays who can do it. Donna Murphy, Beth Leavel...I'd love it. But it would run six weeks. 


 


 


 

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Michael Riedel:

OMG, she'll ruin those songs. 

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Michael Riedel:

"The awful title song that even Hallmark would be embarrassed to put on on a greeting card. ". If you are going to paraphrase /steal the snarky remark a critic made in 1969, at least  give the critic credit. They get so little credit for anything. 


Mack and Mabel was in very strong, capable, talented hands. The show - which everyone loves to lambast for its book and direction - was damn fine. I woukdn't want to see it without Herman's score or Champion's staging. Kinder, Ebb, and Prince had enough problems musicalizing Zorba

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Michael Riedel:

Perhaps this should be done by Roundabout.  Limited engagement, possible extension if it is successful.  Not sure who would be the right person to fill the role, but I definitely don't see Tyne Daly in it.  They would have to do something about that title song which is catchy, but totally inappropriate.


How about Judi Dench...limited engagement.  She could do a great job with those songs.

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Michael Riedel:

I always liked the title song. I understand why it's awful, but I like it just the same. 


 


And I've read the script to Mack and Mabel in its revised version, and I find it to be very good. The Herman optimistic music combined with the extremely depressing story gives the show a unique sarcastic tone. Very tongue-in-cheek. If Kander and Ebb had written the show, I think you might have ended up with another The Rink, which is a great show but is such a downer that nobody enjoys themselves while watching it.


 


And Dear World should be done at the Belasco by Lincoln Center for a limited engagement with Bernadette Peters. I think that would be great.

Updated On: 6/23/15 at 09:35 PM

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Michael Riedel:

I was going to suggest Bernadete Peters, but thought Judi Dench was an event enter choice, however unlikely.  I think Peters would be terrific in the role, certainly better than Daly.

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Michael Riedel:

JayG, who am I stealing from? I remember a bunch of critics saying something similar, and they're all right. I agree. It's a dumb lyric. Just dumb. However, Fantod I think the reason why you like the song is because it actually is a good tune. It's an ear worm. If it had a less putrid lyric... (Apparently, Herman envisioned a small child singing it-- lyric and all, which would have made more sense, but he never spoke up.) 


Kander, Ebb and Prince (and Joe Stein) actually had no problem musicalizing ZORBA, which is among one of K&E's most characterful scores, and though a dark work, certainly consistent in tone. With MACK AND MABEL, there's an inconsistency. It never can really work, despite the delightful "Look What Happened to Mabel" and the gorgeous "Time Heals Everything"-- two first rate songs. 

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Michael Riedel:

This thread reminds me how much better this site is without After Hate.


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Michael Riedel:

Where is Rex, anyways????? I hope he's ok!

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Michael Riedel:

If the likes of Lansbury and Buckley can't make it work, no one can.


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