NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion- Page 102

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:36pm

And since ReNt does exist in this world, I can't believe no one on the show noticed the parallels. These are people who can frigging find a Marilyn Monroe parallel in everything they say or do, but no one seems to notice how eerie the ReNt/Johnathan Larson and Hit List/Kyle Bishop parallels are.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:37pm

But what exactly did Kyle do for this show? It's now a sung through show with music and lyrics by Jimmy. The parallels aren't exactly the same.

[Ham3]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:39pm

"No, it's more like PRYMATE."

Which ran for what, 4 days?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:42pm

I'm talking about the message of the show, not how long it ran.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:44pm

The message of BOMBSHELL has something to do with masturbating monkeys?

[Ham3]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:45pm

^LOL

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:46pm

Well, he wrote the book. I mean, no the parallels aren't exact. But "edgy," "hip" off-Broadway rock musical with a lot of buzz has a creator die just as the phenomenon is taking off is still a pretty close parallel.

Not to mention the performance where they are supposed to do a concert that turns into the staged show. Granted, I think ReNt's was a dress rehearsal, but if Kyle were alive, at least HE'D have seen the parallels!

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:47pm

He was looking up and smiling at the parallels.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:50pm

"Looking up"? Are you insinuating that our Kyle is in Hell?

[Kad]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:51pm

I would like to think the Smash writers would know that explicitly drawing the Hit List/Rent comparison would be in very poor taste. So they'll just skirt around it and imply it now that they stuck themselves in that corner.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:52pm

Borstal, he had gay sex. Jesus won't let him in the clubhouse.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:53pm

Oh, I know that they won't actually have a character mention it, but it's just absurd that they've established ReNt exists in their world and then have this go and happen.

Does anyone know if Kyle will be back for season 3?

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:54pm

But I thought he wasn't a bottom! I thought the only thing that topped him was that ice cream truck!

[Kad]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:55pm

Now that he's dead, I can stop respecting his wishes to be called 'versatile." Boy was a bottom.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:55pm

Kyle's contribution to the show was storyboarding the songs Jimmy wrote with the assistance of Julia and Jesse. It's the first musical he worked on ever, and he's like 22, so the forced Rent parallels are actually kind of professionally offensive to Jonathan Larson was well.


I can't wait for season 10, when Karen is too old to be in the Hit List movie.

[Ham3]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:01pm

"I would like to think the Smash writers would know that explicitly drawing the Hit List/Rent comparison would be in very poor taste. So they'll just skirt around it and imply it now that they stuck themselves in that corner."

You give the Smash writers WAY too much credit. They know nothing, Jon Snow.

[MaddieBB12]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:02pm

I wonder how Jeese L. Martin and Daphne Rubin-Vega feel. You could almost tell how pained Jeese was in that scene with Julia in the office (and not just because he was acting.)

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:07pm

At least he didn't get hit by the HIV truck.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:09pm

Maybe they'll do a Matthew Shepard allusion and we'll find out from Kyle's autopsy that he was positive.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:11pm

Can one of the SVU detectives investigate his murder?

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:14pm

Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Rubin-Vega are probably just glad to have a paying gig and could care less.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:15pm

I bet Anthony Rapp was driving the ice cream truck.

[MaddieBB12]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:16pm

Good point. But still- that was something that impacted them both personally.

Updated On: 5/4/13 at 10:16 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:21pm

I mean, on one hand it was almost twenty years ago, but on the other, it's still kind of icky.

[broadwaytbay]

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:33pm

I was actually kind of moved. Its a tv show. if you aren't entertained turn it off... but if you keep watching thanks I guess you likely count towards ratings keeping it from being cancelled.