NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion — Page 102

#2526

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:36pm

And since ReNt does exist in this world, I can't believe no one on the show noticed the parallels. These are people who can frigging find a Marilyn Monroe parallel in everything they say or do, but no one seems to notice how eerie the ReNt/Johnathan Larson and Hit List/Kyle Bishop parallels are.

#2527

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:37pm

But what exactly did Kyle do for this show? It's now a sung through show with music and lyrics by Jimmy. The parallels aren't exactly the same.

#2528

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:39pm

"No, it's more like PRYMATE."

Which ran for what, 4 days?

#2529

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:42pm

I'm talking about the message of the show, not how long it ran.

#2530

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:44pm

The message of BOMBSHELL has something to do with masturbating monkeys?

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#2531

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:45pm

^LOL

#2532

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:46pm

Well, he wrote the book. I mean, no the parallels aren't exact. But "edgy," "hip" off-Broadway rock musical with a lot of buzz has a creator die just as the phenomenon is taking off is still a pretty close parallel.

Not to mention the performance where they are supposed to do a concert that turns into the staged show. Granted, I think ReNt's was a dress rehearsal, but if Kyle were alive, at least HE'D have seen the parallels!

#2533

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:47pm

He was looking up and smiling at the parallels.

#2534

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:50pm

"Looking up"? Are you insinuating that our Kyle is in Hell?

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"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

#2535

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:51pm

I would like to think the Smash writers would know that explicitly drawing the Hit List/Rent comparison would be in very poor taste. So they'll just skirt around it and imply it now that they stuck themselves in that corner.

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"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

#2536

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:52pm

Borstal, he had gay sex. Jesus won't let him in the clubhouse.

#2537

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:53pm

Oh, I know that they won't actually have a character mention it, but it's just absurd that they've established ReNt exists in their world and then have this go and happen.

Does anyone know if Kyle will be back for season 3?

#2538

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:54pm

But I thought he wasn't a bottom! I thought the only thing that topped him was that ice cream truck!

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"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

#2539

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:55pm

Now that he's dead, I can stop respecting his wishes to be called 'versatile." Boy was a bottom.

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"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

#2540

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 9:55pm

Kyle's contribution to the show was storyboarding the songs Jimmy wrote with the assistance of Julia and Jesse. It's the first musical he worked on ever, and he's like 22, so the forced Rent parallels are actually kind of professionally offensive to Jonathan Larson was well.


I can't wait for season 10, when Karen is too old to be in the Hit List movie.

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Wanting life but never knowing how

#2541

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:01pm

"I would like to think the Smash writers would know that explicitly drawing the Hit List/Rent comparison would be in very poor taste. So they'll just skirt around it and imply it now that they stuck themselves in that corner."

You give the Smash writers WAY too much credit. They know nothing, Jon Snow.

#2542

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:02pm

I wonder how Jeese L. Martin and Daphne Rubin-Vega feel. You could almost tell how pained Jeese was in that scene with Julia in the office (and not just because he was acting.)

#2543

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:07pm

At least he didn't get hit by the HIV truck.

#2544

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:09pm

Maybe they'll do a Matthew Shepard allusion and we'll find out from Kyle's autopsy that he was positive.

#2545

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:11pm

Can one of the SVU detectives investigate his murder?

#2546

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:14pm

Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Rubin-Vega are probably just glad to have a paying gig and could care less.

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Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how

#2547

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:15pm

I bet Anthony Rapp was driving the ice cream truck.

#2548

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:16pm

Good point. But still- that was something that impacted them both personally.

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#2549

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:21pm

I mean, on one hand it was almost twenty years ago, but on the other, it's still kind of icky.

#2550

SMASH

Posted: 5/4/13 at 10:33pm

I was actually kind of moved. Its a tv show. if you aren't entertained turn it off... but if you keep watching thanks I guess you likely count towards ratings keeping it from being cancelled.