New Pal Joey Revival

[brdwybound04]

Posted: 10/4/21 at 9:07am

No offense, but I cant imagine this being successful and turning a profit I still have plenty of not so great memories of the last Pal Joey revival at Roundabout featuring Daniel Reichard and Stockyard Channing. The script did not age well to begin with, and the only semi-memorable song was Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered in fact the show wasnt even nominated for any Tonys that year, not was a cast album made to preserve the vocals

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Tony-Goldwyn-and-Savion-Glover-Will-Helm-Revised-PAL-JOEY-on-Broadway-20211004

[BwayLB]

Posted: 10/4/21 at 9:20am

Got me on Savion Glover since I grew up with Happy Feet

[Dollypop]

Posted: 10/4/21 at 2:01pm

That show needs Derek Hough and Patti LuPone

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 3:38pm

''No offense, but I cant imagine this being successful and turning a profit I still have plenty of not so great memories of the last Pal Joey revival at Roundabout featuring Daniel Reichard and Stockyard Channing. The script did not age well to begin with, and the only semi-memorable song was Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered in fact the show wasnt even nominated for any Tonys that year, not was a cast album made to preserve the vocals.''

Not sure which ''Pal Joey'' revival you saw, but the one in 2008-09 starred Stockard Channing and Matthew Risch, and received FOUR Tony nominations, including Best Musical Revival, Best Actress in a Musical (for Channng) and Best Featured Actress in a Musical (for Martha Plimpton).

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 5:14pm

I think the OP got their Jersey Boys mixed up, as Christian Hoff was supposed to open the revival but bowed out during previews because of a reported foot injury. Of course, the rumor mill at the time was that the injury was very minor and he should have been able to return to the show, but the higher ups, including Mary Rodgers, were unhappy with his performance and used the injury to force him out completely and replace him with Matthew Risch.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 5:42pm

Wayman, you know very well that was an incredibly weak year and the production was reviled by any critic with a worthwhile readership.

It really is going to come down to the casting. There is no reason for the producers to take a bath on this production without real STAR names attached (so no, not Derek Hough and Patti LuPone). A buzzy cast + good reviews + Tony attention + a good ad campaign that says "this show is a classy good time" might make it a hit. But PAL JOEY is also a white whale that nobody can seem to conquer.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 5:59pm

Can’t imagine anyone thinking Pal Joey only has one memorable song. Literally every song in the score is a gem. One of the best scores of the golden age. If the show is flawed the score was never the problem.

[joevitus]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 6:29pm

brdwybound04 said: "No offense, but I cant imagine this being successful and turning a profit I still have plenty of not so great memories of the last Pal Joey revival at Roundabout featuring Daniel Reichard and Stockyard Channing. The script did not age well to begin with, and the only semi-memorable song was Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered in fact the show wasnt even nominated for any Tonys that year, not was a cast album made to preserve the vocals

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Tony-Goldwyn-and-Savion-Glover-Will-Helm-Revised-PAL-JOEY-on-Broadway-20211004
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You saw a production you didn't like. Fair enough. But only one memorable song? You won't even give a nod to "I Could Write a Book?" But as CATSNYRevival says, the whole score is a classic. The Colombia studio recording from the early 50's has literally never gone out of print. I think that suggests its ongoing popularity.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 10/5/21 at 8:36pm

''Wayman, you know very well that was an incredibly weak year and the production was reviled by any critic with a worthwhile readership.''

My post wasn't debating the quality of that revival (which is subjective anyway). It was about setting the record straight: by properly identifying the actor who played Joey and correcting the OP's mistaken notion that ''the show wasn't even nominated for any Tonys that year.'' Everyone's entitled to his opinion, like thinking ''Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered'' is the only ''semi-memorable song'' in the Rodgers and Hart score, but not misstating the facts.

Updated On: 10/5/21 at 08:36 PM

[Wallman2]

Posted: 10/6/21 at 12:19am

Pal Joey is the best of the Rodgers and Hart shows and it was ground-breaking in that it was the first Broadway musical to depict an anti-hero at the center of the story.  Though it received a mixed receptionin in its initial production,  when it was revived in 1952 it actually won the NY Drama Critics Circle Awad for Best Musical...I don't think a revival ever won again.  And it's interesting that Jule Styne ("Gypsy," "Funny Girl" produced the 1952 production which was also a "hit".    I am really looiking forward to this revival or revisal, I think that placing this show in a club will in the South Side of Chicago will justify inclusion of additional songs.  They should find room for "Ten Cents a Dance" as well as "Where or When".  Perhaps this will do for "Pal Joey's" score what "Crazy For You" did for "Girl Crazy".  

[joevitus]

Posted: 10/6/21 at 11:51am

But the problem with that would be that the score of Pal Joey is divided in two: parody nightclub songs that mock trends and revealing character songs. If you put emotionally meaningful songs into the nightclub acts, just to hear more Rodgers and Hart, you mess with the conception and lose focus on the show's aims.

[Lunalaaaaaaaa]

Posted: 1/16/22 at 12:49pm

Who do we think might be in this? And what theater this might go to in the 2022-2023 season?

[Demitri2]

Posted: 1/16/22 at 5:12pm

Did anyone see the revival production which was aimed for Broadway that starred Lena Horne and Clifton Davis? It never made Broadway for a good reason. It was a total bore. What was considered daring and shocking I guess back in the forties was anything but and this was titled "Pal Joey '78" (the year of the production). So even back then it no longer played well.

I, too, love the score. Especially the Encores recording with Ms.LuPone. I just don't think the book warrants a revival regardless of cast and director.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 1/16/22 at 9:29pm

Likely all depends on casting and availability. Given the vagueness of the announcement, I'll believe it when I see it.

Remember, this same producer has also announced revivals of Damn Yankees, Whorehouse, The Wiz, Killer Joe, and plenty of other shows that have never and will never happen.