Nominess Announced for 2007 Broadway.com Audience Awards: Spring Awakening — Page 4

in response to jg4892:

the SA cast is very young, and even though they have have some experience in the biz, it's not nearly as remarkable as people like Michael Berresse in ACL, or Charlotte D'Amboisse. yah, they work hard, but they have NOWHERE near the amount of talent or experience as other casts, like in Fame Becomes Me, ACL, Mary Poppins, Grey Gardens, etc.
SA doesn't deserve that much praise - sure it's good, but not THAT good.

Maureen McGovern?

LizzyA- you say it's not that good. Have you actually SEEN the show? Hate to break it to you but no one cares how long you have been in the bix. If it's a hot show, it's a hot show. People aren't going to wait till the actors are pushing 40 to give them recognition.

*ahem*

Yay for Celia nom!

*crawls back into hole to watch debate*

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When Remy Zaken, who barely has anything to do, is getting a nod just becasue of some insane Spring Awakening fans, you know it has crossed the line. Just because the people in Spring Awakening aren't vets, doesn't mean they don't work hard at what they do.Also, it doesn't mean they aren't good performers. Anna, that is just wrong. I feel bad complaining about a fan base that I help run but, I'm a little agitated right now. I know these are just audience awards but look back at the past nominations and winners of these awards. They usually do reflect the actual awards. Now they get messed up because of a certain fan base.

I was referring to the fact that Lizzya said they didn't deserve it just because they were young, not the actual nominations themselves. I was saying that they shouldn't have to wait till they're 40 to get recognition just because other people have been in the business longer. Look, I think a lot of these nominations are ridiculous (especially the supporting actor and actress category) but I don't think people should go blaming the show for its success and saying they don't like it anymore.

I wasn't trying to pick on her. I just don't understand her point on the actors themselves. I agree that most (actually, sorry, all) of them didn't really deserve nominations compared to other nominees, but I'm just misunderstanding the working hard part and such.

Becoz - I think it's wrong too. Let's just be happy the Tony Awards are not made up of audience votes.

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Anna: I don't think Skittles was talking about you.

And Skittles: I think people are picking on Lizzy because she has said a lot of things about SA, notably stating that she hated the show because of Lea Michele's "conduct" on a podcast.

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And for the record, lizzy was the only person who commented on the talent and age issue. Who should I direct my comments to being that no one else said anything about that?

I think people are picking on Lizzy because she has said a lot of things about SA, notably stating that she hated the show because of Lea Michele's "conduct" on a podcast.

Exactly my point. She said nothing about it in this thread, but they're picking apart her posts to find something to object to because of her past behavior, not because of what she said in this thread. To allude to what jg4892 said earlier in this thread, people need to learn to separate their biased opinions about posters and the actual content of the posts they're attacking.

She didn't say "old=talented"; you're putting words in her mouth. She said the other casts were had more talent and experience. And she's right. Debra Monk deserves a nomination over Remy Zeken not because she's old, but because Remy didn't deserve the nomination in the first place.

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Updated On: 5/11/07 at 11:27 PM

Well, I don't totally agree with her about the young vs. old debate.

But there is a definite difference in maturity on stage. It's one thing to create a character on stage, another to execute said creation. Something that comes with experience on stage.

Someone in A CHORUS LINE has much more material to work with. Perhaps it is the experience and material, but McGill comes off much more mature on stage than, say, Remy whatshername, even though both actors are playing young characters (though Remy's is much younger). An actor can appear mature on stage (seasoned, even) and still portray a young character...like Dakota Fanning.

But it is just frustrating to see someone like her even considered for any sort of "award." I mean - she sings just about nothing (at least Cooper has a song) and she isn't amazing (nor should she be).

Well, I guess it is better to snub Donna Murphy from winning a Broadway.com award than doing drugs in an abandoned parking lot. If only I knew then what I know now...

Updated On: 5/11/07 at 11:33 PM

Well, I guess it is better to snub Donna Murphy from winning a Broadway.com award than doing drugs in an abandoned parking lot. If only I knew then what I know now...


Heh!

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