Outer Critics Noms- Page 5

[best12bars]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:25pm

Having seen both, I'm surprised that Ashley Brown was nominated over Deborah Monk.

Ashley's singing may have been "rangy" but her acting was strictly "one note."

They should have petitioned to have Monk submitted in the Featured Actress category, because her role is just not big enough. But it was a FAR better performance than Ms. Brown's. I guess they're penalizing her for having a small part.

Too many "size queens" voting, no doubt.

[neddyfrank2]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:30pm

If you are appearing in or on the creative team of a new show and also the Tony Nominating Committee are you allowed to make decisions regarding your shows? Can you nominate yourself?
Updated On: 4/23/07 at 04:30 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:33pm

"S*hitty S*hitty"

"The big British toy train doesn't get the Tony nods folks."

"(with the exception of Spamalot, which is far from artistically successful)"

Ugh...another one of those people...

Updated On: 4/23/07 at 04:33 PM

[jaystarr]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:36pm

best12bars- I totally agree with you- Debra Monk is better than Ashley Brown, but you have a point that DM should be "Featured" , instead of "lead"

"one note" is the word I was thinking-that's a perfect word to describe her-- thanks again- best12bars..

Let me second the motion as to why John Gallagher, Jr. not nominated nor any actors from "Spring Awakening" as featured.. I think the nomination were kinda unfair to "SA" It should have gotten more nominations than 2 (?)




Updated On: 4/23/07 at 04:36 PM

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:45pm

NeddyFrank,

In that case I'm fairly sure that you have to recuse yourself from the voting process that season (committee members serve three year terms).

[jaystarr]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:45pm

Hi All-

Can someone please tell me as to Why "LITTLE DOG LAUGHED" not nominated to Outer Circles as OUTSTANDING NEW PLAY ? Is it bec. it was the same case as "Grey Gardens" from last year ( I read somewhere that Julie White got a recognition last year ) or was it snubbed ?
Updated On: 4/23/07 at 04:45 PM

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 4:51pm

Little Dog was up last year.

And to me, the Drama Desks (voted on by a small exclusive group of "elite" critics) is more like the National Board of Review Awards for film (which polls a small group of major critics from around the country), while the Outer Critics (voted on by a small number of critics columnists, radio hots and others, often from rather obscure publications and websites, many of whom are out of town) are more like the Golden Globes (voted on by the Hollywood Foreign Press -- a small group of obscure journalists who write for foregin media outlets).

Updated On: 4/23/07 at 04:51 PM

[Lizzya9]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 5:00pm

I'm very pleased with the Mary Poppins & Curtains noms! Hopefully Ashley Brown gets her well-deserved award.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 5:02pm

I doubt she'll win. I think Audra will win.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 5:24pm

MargoChanning, could you be thinking of the National Society of Film Critics, instead of the National Board of Review?

Despite its title, the National Board of Review really doesn't have anything to do with film critics per se. According to its Web site, its membership consists of 'film professionals, educators, students and historians.' I even know members who don't fall into those categories; I'd call them 'film buffs.'


National Board of Review

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 5:43pm

Yep. I actually first thought "Film Critics" but then I ended up typing out "Review." My mistake.

[jv92]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:11pm

"Ugh...another one of those people..."

I'd like to know what category you are putting me in.

[jv92]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:14pm

"Hopefully Ashley Brown gets her well-deserved award."

For what, bland, wooden acting and overly chipper singing? I think it's Donna Murphy's prize in this race.

[theaterdude87]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:29pm

I think we now know how MP got the noms...LOOK:

The Outer Critics Circle is an organization of writers covering New York theater for out-of-town newspapers, national publications and other media beyond Broadway. The nominating committee consisted of Simon Saltzman (President), Marjorie Gunner (President Emerita), Lizzya9 (Broadwayworld.com) Mario Fratti (Vice-President) Patrick Hoffman (Corresponding Secretary), Louis A. Rachow (Treasurer), Glenn Loney (Historian and Member-at-Large), Rosalind Friedman (Recording Secretary) and Aubrey Reuben and Thomas Gentile (Members-at-Large).

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:31pm

Although, the ratio of voters from the smaller panel to larger panel is very similar (700 Tony voters to 9 OCCers and appx. 6,000 Acaemdy members to 86 HFPAers), I'm not sure I'd compare the Globes to the OCCs...the Globes are a FAR better indication of the Oscars than the OCCs are of the Tony Awards.

[theaterdude87]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:36pm

Legally Blonde may have only gotten one nomination...this was on broadway.com:

Among the new Broadway entries, Legally Blonde cracked the top five in capacity, filling the Palace Theatre to 97.16%

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:38pm

What does that have to do with the OCC nominations.

[theaterdude87]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 6:57pm

well in the scheme of things it has nothing to do.
but...

a. no need to be a jerk.
b. out of all the new shows it was the most full last week.

i was just pointing it out.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:02pm

Well, there really wasn't any need to post it, so why did you. It seemed like you wanted to say "So what if LB didn't get any noms! Look at how well they did! Ha!"

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:03pm

I swear Disney is paying somebody. I am very disappointed with this. Mary Poppins for Best Musical,Score and directing? I think there were other shows that could have filled those spots. I was shocked when I saw Ashley Brown's name. I know the Drama Desk usually gets it right.
Updated On: 4/23/07 at 07:03 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:16pm

Well, there really wasn't any need to post it, so why did you. It seemed like you wanted to say "So what if LB didn't get any noms! Look at how well they did! Ha!"

Well, it would seem to me that remarking about how Legally Blonde is doing well despite the lack of nominations is directly related to the OCC Nominations thread. Not sure why you found it so offensive or claimed it was off-topic somehow. Weird...

[theaterdude87]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:18pm

I looked at last years nomiantions:

Outstanding Broadway Musical
The Woman in White


Outstanding Set Design
William Dudley The Woman in White

Outstanding Costume Design
William Dudley The Woman in White

Outstanding Lighting Design
Paul Pyant The Woman in White

Outstanding Featured Actor in a Musical
Michael Ball The Woman in White

There were also some other randoms ones as well. Just goes to show that just because some shows did not do well today does not mean there is not hope for them.

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:26pm

THE OCC's are f'd up.

[Raviolisun]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:56pm

Wow. Very surprising.

[Lizzya9]

Posted: 4/23/07 at 7:58pm

just because they don't agree with all of your opnions doesn't mean that they are "f'd up". theatre is a very personal thing and generalizations or assumptions shouldn't be made about shows or actors, it's all a matter of opinion. it's not the same thing as movies where it's thumbs up or thumbs down, it all very specific and there are always grey areas.