Photos from Nine

[Broadwaywest2]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 4:58pm

some new photos from Nine, I love penlope's












If you want to see them bigger go to this link:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1874233600/tt0875034

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 5:27pm

The movie is still gonna **** due to the diemboweling of the score.

I wonder if Yeston was on board with this or if he had to sit by & watch quietly.

[beewai]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 5:59pm

I don't understand you how you can be so sure that something will suck based on things you have heard about the film. Granted I'm not saying you should blindly anticipate and support -- but give me a break... Film is a completely different medium. And while brilliant as a theater piece, NINE the musical isn't entirely filmic. Changes will be made but your certainty the the outcome will be utter FAIL seem just a tad bit unwarranted.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:04pm

I am sorry but when you take 1/2 of the music out of a score including many really good ones you have lost me.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:07pm

I would agree, if he hadn't cut that much of the score. That takes this from an adaptation to, "do your own film and leave the musical alone".

Not to say the film will be bad, but if you want to adapt a musical for the screen and you have to cut more than 75% of the score, why bother?

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:13pm

Exactly

A Funny Thing would have been really great had they not gutted the score. Damn Yankees was good but would have been better if they had not cut a few good songs & replaced them with inferior ones. The only thing that saved Cabaret (after the songs were cut) were the staging & direction of Fosse & Minelli & Gray. Marshall is no Fosse

If you cannot open up a musical show on screen without gutting a score than you just don't get it. If you never saw the show, you would have a different take on it. Just agonizing over the numbers cut here, the film will be ruined especially when one thinks how great it would have been with minimal cuts & Banderas repeating his role for the screen.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:20pm

Cabaret also mostly cut songs from Fräulein Schneider, whose part in the film is significantly reduced and the romantic subplot gone to accommodate Liza's new numbers.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:24pm

Look at what happened to ON THE TOWN. On stage, it had a brilliant score. In the movie, only a handful of those songs remained. The rest were replaced with garbage.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:31pm

It worked although it was a shame the numbers went but at least it made sense & was not a wholesale bloodletting.

[walkedthroughmany]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:36pm

...and Nine cut numbers to accommodate Rob Marshall's vision. What's the difference? Zeta-Jones wanted her part enlarged, and Marshall refused -- he felt more strongly about doing the show justice than he did about having his star on board. That fact alone makes me trust him.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:39pm

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I will stick with mine & respect yours although I disagree.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:41pm

Nah, if Marshall had the bond with Yeston that Fosse had with Kander and Ebb I wouldn't post a thing, shut up and wait, but this isn't the case.

Of course, Nine doesn't have the number of fans that other musicals do. If Marshall announced he was doing Les Miserables , but only five songs of the score remained, he would have already been stoned to death.

[walkedthroughmany]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 7:41pm

Susan Stroman had a bond with Mel Brooks.

I don't think a writer-director bond determines the success of a stage-to-screen adaptation.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 8:06pm

Again, Nine- the Rob Marshall film could potentially be sublime, excellent, grandiose, a masterpiece and a jewel.

But it is not Nine, the Maury Yeston musical.
It is "Nine: Whatever Rob Marshall Wanted to do With It".

(And, if you really are comparing the Stroman-Brooks collaboration with Fosse-Kander & Ebb, I pity you.)

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 8:10pm

Mel Brooks vs K/E?

Not exactly a fair fight.

[walkedthroughmany]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 10:11pm

Just trying to add some perspective. Sometimes I feel like people think Marshall/Yeston is worse than Stroman/Brooks.

[inlovewithjerryherman]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 10:14pm

what songs have been cut?

I know the title song is out, but that's all I know.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/30/09 at 10:17pm

This is according to an imdb.com post:

Overture Della Donne
Spa Music
Not Since Chaplin
Western di Guido/The Bible/Documentary
Only With You
The Script
Nine
Ti Voglio Bene
The Bells of St. Sebastian
A Man Like You
Contini Submits
The Grand Canal
Every Girl in Venice
Marcia di Ragazzi
Amor
Guido Nervoso
Only You
Tarantella
Opera Finale
Simple
Be On Your Own
Not Since Chaplin
Waltz from Nine
Getting Tall
Reprises

Updated On: 8/31/09 at 10:17 PM

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 12:03am

Maury Yeston was not only involved in full with this film adaptation but he wrote 3 new songs for it.

He didn't hand the score over and slowly walk away from it -- he is fully involved in every aspect of the film's score.

Any modifications not to your liking, take it up with him. ALL artists fully understand the term 'adaptation'... yes, even John Kander and Fred Ebb. Heck... even Marc Shaiman and Scott Whittman (and even Stephen Sondheim!).

I guess YOU don't.

[beewai]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 12:17am

To an extent I can see what everyone is saying, but my problem with the OP revolved around the condemnation of a film that no one has seen more than a trailer for.

And while I happen to think NINE the musical is brilliant and stands alone as brilliant -- I think that to do a strict translation to film wouldn't work, especially with this show. The film MUST be something new, and fresh or it won't even have a chance at succeeding.

NINE doesn't have the following that say, Mamma Mia has. Most everyone experiencing the film WILL be experiencing it as a piece in and of itself, for the first time. And I think that changing the piece to fit it's medium is an entirely necessary evil.

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 12:42am

Again, I'm not talking about the quality of the film - it might as well be incredible. But I think it was besty who in another post mentioned it shouldn't be called Nine, but Five or Four.

Perhaps I just don't personally believe that someone's vision should have more weight than the source material in an adaptation, but that there should be a balance.

If my vision of a musical adaptation required to cut 75% of its score, I wouldn't even bother, I'd be obviously doing something completely different from the original and might as well start writing my own scripts.

But obviously to Marshall, he could have one song left and still be Nine, Yeston's musical. It's the artistic integrity of the adaptation that I'm questioning, not the quality of the film, which I'm sure could be great.

And I'm not sure about Yeston being so content as Marshall does whatever he wants with his score, but taking the opportunity of watching his piece getting an adaptation and sitting quietly in the back.

Of course, if I don't like it I can just shut up and listen to my cast recording with the full score. My two cents.

[beewai]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 12:52am

Blaxx, I appreciate what you're saying - even agree to an extent. My comments were pointed for the OP

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 1:08am

I think the reactions (like the OP's) are because Nine is not as popular of a musical, so those who know the score and appreciate it can be more defensive about the cuts, and reject it just out of not getting (to be redundant) the music to the musical they like.

I'm sure most movie goers have never heard of Nine, and wouldn't have anything to compare it with. They will watch as if the film was an original.

As I said before, if Marshall was filming a show like Wicked and it was announced that only four songs made it to the film, this already would be the apocalypse.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 2:09am

The song is "The Bells of St. Sebastian," not "The Belles of St. Sebastian."

[blaxx]

Posted: 8/31/09 at 2:13am

I copied and pasted from imdb. Corrected.