Posted: 9/2/26 at 1:06pm
I'm sure she'll continue doing a lot of film work, but I hope she comes back to Broadway on a regular basis, and I'm wondering what roles people would like to see her play. I would really love for her to do Millie while she's the right age.
Posted: 9/2/26 at 4:09pm
Rentaholic2 said: "I'm sure she'll continue doing a lot of film work, but I hope she comes back to Broadway on a regular basis, and I'm wondering what roles people would like to see her play. I would really love for her to do Millie while she's the right age."
There was a thread about this a year or so ago but Millie has to be dead right? I knew that show was racist when they did it at my middle school and I was like 12. I love the score but I just can't imagine it.
Posted: 9/2/26 at 5:06pm
Rentaholic2 said: "I can't picture it"
Not sure if you are serious but....it's happening.
Posted: 9/2/26 at 5:17pm
uncageg said: "Rentaholic2 said: "I can't picture it"
Not sure if you are serious but....it's happening.
"
very much kidding.
Posted: 9/2/26 at 5:19pm
Ke3 said: "Rentaholic2 said: "I'm sure she'll continue doing a lot of film work, but I hope she comes back to Broadway on a regular basis, and I'm wondering what roles people would like to see her play. I would really love for her to do Millie while she's the right age."
There was a thread about this a year or so ago but Millie has to be dead right? I knew that show was racist when they did it at my middle school and I was like 12. I love the score but I just can't imagine it."
Dead, like it will never be back on Broadway? No way. They'll revise it.
Posted: 9/2/26 at 10:45pm
Rentaholic2 said: "Ke3 said: "Rentaholic2 said: "I'm sure she'll continue doing a lot of film work, but I hope she comes back to Broadway on a regular basis, and I'm wondering what roles people would like to see her play. I would really love for her to do Millie while she's the right age."
There was a thread about this a year or so ago but Millie has to be dead right? I knew that show was racist when they did it at my middle school and I was like 12. I love the score but I just can't imagine it."
Dead, like it will never be back on Broadway? No way.They'll revise it."
Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist? Lord, some of the comments on this board...
Posted: 9/2/26 at 10:59pm
Zegler has an amazing voice, and watching slime tutorials, her Eva is spectacular, but I'm still not sure how versatile she is or how good an actress, and thus what kind of career she can have. There's zero character development from her Eva over the course of the show. She is fully formed Eva Peron from first to last, striking pop diva power poses and looking relentlessly icy and in control except for "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" (and it's her portrayal throughout the rest of the show that makes that moment so devestating--that intense "earnestness" that isn't telegraphed in any way as a sham as she's singing to the crowd, and anyone just showing up on the street to see her sing it would totally miss who her Eva really is; which was, of course, the whole point).
This may be a Lloyd failing, not a Zegler failing, but it's a fact nonetheless. I'd like to think she could have triumphed in this role in a more traditional staging, but she hasn't yet demonstrated that she can, so I'm not sure what roles would fit her.
Does she have the range for Dot or Eliza, or would she be better as Maria von Trapp or, as suggested above, Millie? A revival of The Boy Friend? Peter Pan? Just throwing out guesses here.
Updated On: 9/2/26 at 10:59 PM
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:36am
joevitus said:
Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist? Lord, some of the comments on this board..."
The show is dated, and so many of the jokes about Asians and the portrayal of Mrs Meers' two assistants is definitely quite racist.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 11:36am
joevitus said: "Zegler has an amazing voice, and watching slime tutorials, her Eva is spectacular, but I'm still not sure how versatile she is or how good an actress, and thus what kind of career she can have. There's zero character development from her Evaoverthe course of the show. She is fully formed Eva Peron from first to last, striking pop diva power poses and looking relentlessly icy and in control except for "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" (and it's her portrayal throughout the rest of the show that makes that moment so devestating--that intense "earnestness" that isn't telegraphed in any way as a sham as she's singing to the crowd, and anyone just showing up on the street to see her sing it would totally miss who herEva really is; which was, of course, the whole point).
This may be a Lloyd failing, not a Zegler failing, but it's a fact nonetheless.I'd like to think she could have triumphed in this role in a more traditional staging, but she hasn't yet demonstrated that she can, so I'm not sure what roles would fit her.
Does she have the range for Dotor Eliza, or would she be better as Maria von Trapp or, as suggested above, Millie? A revival of The Boy Friend? Peter Pan? Just throwing out guesses here.
"
You might have a point about her versatility as an actor, but as a singer, I'd argue she's very versatile. I can't think of many performers who seem as comfortable in operatic / soprano roles (e.g., Maria in WSS) as they are in big belty roles (e.g., Eva). She's somehow vocally right for both the Kelli O'Hara roles and the Sutton Foster roles.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 11:55am
joevitus said: "Zegler has an amazing voice, and watching slime tutorials, her Eva is spectacular, but I'm still not sure how versatile she is or how good an actress, and thus what kind of career she can have. There's zero character development from her Evaoverthe course of the show. She is fully formed Eva Peron from first to last, striking pop diva power poses and looking relentlessly icy and in control except for "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" (and it's her portrayal throughout the rest of the show that makes that moment so devestating--that intense "earnestness" that isn't telegraphed in any way as a sham as she's singing to the crowd, and anyone just showing up on the street to see her sing it would totally miss who herEva really is; which was, of course, the whole point).
This may be a Lloyd failing, not a Zegler failing, but it's a fact nonetheless.I'd like to think she could have triumphed in this role in a more traditional staging, but she hasn't yet demonstrated that she can, so I'm not sure what roles would fit her.
Does she have the range for Dotor Eliza, or would she be better as Maria von Trapp or, as suggested above, Millie? A revival of The Boy Friend? Peter Pan? Just throwing out guesses here.
"
Completely agree, she gave a great performance in Evita. But its basically a concert and there was little acting or emotional range there. But thats Jamie Lloyd and it worked in that particular concept. But everything else I've seen her in shes average at best, and on film I think her weak acting stands out even more.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 1:11pm
joevitus said: "Zegler has an amazing voice, and watching slime tutorials, her Eva is spectacular, but I'm still not sure how versatile she is or how good an actress, and thus what kind of career she can have. There's zero character development from her Evaoverthe course of the show. She is fully formed Eva Peron from first to last, striking pop diva power poses and looking relentlessly icy and in control except for "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" (and it's her portrayal throughout the rest of the show that makes that moment so devestating--that intense "earnestness" that isn't telegraphed in any way as a sham as she's singing to the crowd, and anyone just showing up on the street to see her sing it would totally miss who herEva really is; which was, of course, the whole point).
This may be a Lloyd failing, not a Zegler failing, but it's a fact nonetheless.I'd like to think she could have triumphed in this role in a more traditional staging, but she hasn't yet demonstrated that she can, so I'm not sure what roles would fit her.
Does she have the range for Dotor Eliza, or would she be better as Maria von Trapp or, as suggested above, Millie? A revival of The Boy Friend? Peter Pan? Just throwing out guesses here.
"
Re: versatility, having rewatched West Side Story a few months after seeing Evita, it was almost shocking to see the complete absence of guile she brings to María versus her knowing, self-satisfied yet self-conscious version of Eva. (I also thought she was quite good in contemporary-MT-lead mode in The Last Five Years concert earlier this year!, and was admittedly warmer on her production of R&J than most people lol) There’s that expression about how fame atrophies your brain so you’re stuck at whatever age you were when you become famous, so it seems fitting that, in a pop star-inspired staging, Eva gets to be a better performer of emotions and controller of her image without actually growing much as a person, at her core remaining a restless teenager who wants a vague “more” and knows she doesn’t actually have to play nice to get it. That’s what I think Zegler does so well: play someone who wants to change her status, not herself, who wants love and power without the exchange of genuine vulnerability. Everyone has their own definition of range, but to play DCFMA with such a contrast to the rest of her performance is, I think, very impressive. Anyway, without going too far into the all details of her performance that I found so compelling, I’ll just say it really stuck out to me that, unlike other actresses under the same direction, Zegler never truly fell to sobs during the final stretch; most actors in “traditional” stagings are directed to use the latter part of the second act to be emaciated and defeated and, post-Hal Prince, ultimately sympathetic, so I got a lot out of her denial and refusal to accept defeat, the volume of her brief expression of raw grief and its contrast with her using “Lament” to shrug at her mistakes before asserting her control over the narrative again. It’s not a “likable” move but a winning one, and I think the willingness to play it that way (without tipping over into “shrew” territory) is an accomplishment.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 2:45pm
Rentaholic2 said: "
You might have a point about her versatility as an actor, but as a singer, I'd argue she's very versatile. I can't think of many performers who seem as comfortable in operatic / soprano roles (e.g., Maria in WSS) as they are in big belty roles (e.g., Eva). She's somehow vocally right for both the Kelli O'Hara roles and the Sutton Foster roles."
I'd definitely agree.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 2:48pm
iluvtheatertrash said: "joevitus said:
Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist? Lord, some of the comments on this board..."
The show is dated, and so many of the jokes about Asians and the portrayal of Mrs Meers' two assistants is definitely quite racist.
"
If you believe this, I can't imagine what you think of It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's...Superman.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 3:01pm
joevitus said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "joevitus said:
Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist? Lord, some of the comments on this board..."
The show is dated, and so many of the jokes about Asians and the portrayal of Mrs Meers' two assistants is definitely quite racist.
"
If you believe this, I can't imagine what you think ofIt's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's...Superman."
There's a lot wrong with It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's... Superman, which is why it's, y'know, barely ever produced.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 4:48pm
Kad said: "joevitus said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "joevitus said:
Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist? Lord, some of the comments on this board..."
The show is dated, and so many of the jokes about Asians and the portrayal of Mrs Meers' two assistants is definitely quite racist.
"
If you believe this, I can't imagine what you think ofIt's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's...Superman."
There's a lot wrong with It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's... Superman, which is why it's, y'know, barely ever produced.
"
Do you honestly think Thoroughly Modern Millie is racist?
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:01pm
Anyone with a half functioning brain could see that Thoroughly Modern Mille is racist.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:21pm
TotallyEffed said: "Anyone with a half functioning brain could see that Thoroughly Modern Mille is racist."
Enlighten us, Einstein.
The idea that by 2002, any show on Broadway was being mounted by racists is absurd. That the use of 20's cultural clichés rubs people the wrong way now is one thing, but the idea the creators were trying to demean anyone or had some sort of white supremacy objective--consciously or unconsciously--is ludicrous.
Updated On: 9/3/26 at 05:21 PM
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:35pm
And Mickey Rooney‘s performance in Breakfast at Tiffany’s is just silly fun, right?
You sound foolish.
America has gotten away with making fun of Asian accents, tropes, and stereotypes for far too long. Yes, a white woman dressing up in a kimono with chopsticks in her hair and speaking in an exaggerated “Asian” accent is racist. I believe her subplot is about selling two young Asian guys into slavery or something? I don’t know, this Einstein doesn’t have all day to educate you.
If the musical, which has a great score, is ever restaged, it will need to be majorly rewritten.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:37pm
TotallyEffed said: "AndMickey Rooney‘s performance in Breakfast at Tiffany’s is just silly fun, right?
You sound foolish.
America has gotten away with making fun of Asian accents, tropes, and stereotypes for far too long. Yes, a white woman dressing up in a kimono with chopsticks in her hair and speaking in an exaggerated “Asian” accent is racist. I believe her subplot is about selling two young Asian guys into slavery or something? I don’t know, this Einstein doesn’t have all day to educate you.
If the musical, which has a great score, is ever restaged, it will need to be majorly rewritten."
No, I sound rational. The play was aping the outdated sensibiliity of the 20's with reference to Asians, not abetting those notions. That you can't see the difference between that and acutal racism is on you.
Posted: 9/3/26 at 5:45pm
TotallyEffed said: "Whatever you say, Miss Scarlett."
Sure, dear.
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