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Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble

Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble

10086sunset
#1Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:15pm

http://nypost.com/2016/06/21/groundhog-day-broadway-musical-is-in-big-trouble/

 

16.5? Anyone else think that's crazy?

Updated On: 6/21/16 at 09:15 PM

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#2Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:18pm

Aren't all the musicals based on 80's and 90's film in trouble?  Because very few of them are hits. Now, the flops on the other hand...


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AnnieBlack
#3Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:40pm

Wasn't Sondheim working on Groundhog Day years ago? Would love to see some of those song sketches.

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#4Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:43pm

10086sunset said: "http://nypost.com/2016/06/21/groundhog-day-broadway-musical-is-in-big-trouble/

 

16.5? Anyone else think that's crazy?


I believe "Matilda" was 16 million 

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sparepart973
#5Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:48pm

It's not looking good. I got an email about two weeks ago regarding the cancelation of the first preview but I forgot to respond to it, and I got a reminder last night saying that the first three previews are now canceled. It's hard to tell if this is content or technical troubles. 

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#6Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:48pm

its a warchus musical of course it will be expensive.


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#7Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:50pm

AnnieBlack said: "Wasn't Sondheim working on Groundhog Day years ago? Would love to see some of those song sketches."

http://www.broadway.com/buzz/98353/sondheim-and-groundhog-day-a-match-made-in-musical-heaven/


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#9Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/21/16 at 9:58pm

School of Rock is from the early 00's


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¿Macavity?
#11Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 1:11am

I just wanted to say that I find what just happened with Jorge and PThespian incredibly funny.

neonlightsxo
#12Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:28am

When Scott Rudin drops out, you know it's trouble. I don't have to even read Riedel's piece to know that.

massofmen
#13Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:32am

Speaking of warchus I am amazed matilda will only last about 4 years. I mean you have an incredibly successful book a resonably successful movie and you will only last 4 years? This show was reviewed as well as hamilton for God sake. How did this show not make it into the annals of musical theater?

 

Are his shows thay expensive to run? Do they not understand budgets at the RSC? I feel like matilda (even though t recouped) was a flop with all the adulation and massive worldwide press it received as it should have gone for 6 years or so. 

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#14Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:38am

I admit Rudin's departure is concerning. However, the fact that Riedel says it's in trouble makes me more inclined to believe that it's going to be a huge international hit and win the Tony for Best Musical. 

Updated On: 6/22/16 at 09:38 AM

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#15Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:41am

JBroadway said: "I admit Rudin's departure is concerning. However, the fact that Reidel says it's in trouble makes me more inclined to believe that it's going to be a huge international hit and win the Tony for Best Musical. 

 

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No. It's definitely not. At all. 

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#16Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:44am

Liza's Headband said: "No. It's definitely not. At all. "

 

Lol, I know that. It was just meant to be a joke at Riedel's expense. 

 

neonlightsxo
#17Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:51am

massofmen,  Matilda is extremely expensive to run.

10086sunset
#18Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 10:52am

Actually nice to see Riedel report something for a change.

 

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#19Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 11:23am

massofmen said: "Speaking of warchus I am amazed matilda will only last about 4 years. I mean you have an incredibly successful book a resonably successful movie and you will only last 4 years? This show was reviewed as well as hamilton for God sake. How did this show not make it into the annals of musical theater?

 

Are his shows thay expensive to run? Do they not understand budgets at the RSC? I feel like matilda (even though t recouped) was a flop with all the adulation and massive worldwide press it received as it should have gone for 6 years or so. 


 

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Perhaps Matilda is not really that good a show, let alone the competition with Wicked as their target audiences pretty much overlap. Personally, I wasn't wowed by Matilda, and, having not read the book, find the supernatural elements which comes late in the show somewhat awkward, like a lazy way to resolve the plot conflict. Wicked, while having its flaws, has a very accessible and enjoyable story that unfolds grippingly. Besides, with timeless songs like Defying Gravity, which is popularized by Glee, and For Good, Wicked is also a pure joy to ear. While Matilda has good numbers like Revolting and the swing song, it suffers from an otherwise not outstanding score and lacking publicity. It''s perhaps a book that many peeps have read, but when it comes to a "traditional Broadway experience" which most families are looking for, Wicked is the more coveted choice.

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#20Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 11:38am

I'm surprised Groundhog Day has such a large budget. It doesn't strike me as a property that needs such a big production.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

massofmen
#21Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 11:54am

dancing through life thats a good point. 

Maybe the show has just been riding on the coat tails of the famous name. Maybe a better show would have run longer and possibly its run longer than it would have if it wasn't named "matilda"

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#22Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 11:55am

I have been crying all morning ... First SCOTT RUDIN leaves and now this ... WHAT IS GOING ON??? Is this a smear campaign?? Or is it possible that GROUNDHOG DAY is bad? My heart breaks for ANDY KARL .. He is a TALENT and deserves a hit!!! Things must be so tough for him and ORFEH KARL right now. I cannot even imagine.

I LOVE ANDY KARL!! I hope this works out for him... He should be a TWO-TIME TONY WINNER by now Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble

I'm SO SAD!!!


"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'

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#23Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:00pm

Well, if this is the worst of the issues in your life, your life is pretty okay.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

neonlightsxo
#24Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:17pm

I can't decide if Skimbleshanks is for real or a truly brilliant performance artist.

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#25Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:21pm

LOL ... I guess Kad is right (for the first time) ... To quote my all-time favorite musical, Rocky ... My nose ain't broken yet. Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble

And for better or worse I am very real ... Just ask my husband LOL.

I just love ANDY KARL! He's such a talent. I wish him the best. xx


"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'

ebontoyan
#26Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:42pm

Why is it tough for Andy Karl...he has a career on Broadway and TV (and has made the occasional movie)??!  Of course SVU killed him off so he can do Groundhog Day! lol lol I'm sure he will land on his feet. I'm an Andy fan btw

Updated On: 6/22/16 at 12:42 PM

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#27Riedel on Groundhog Day being in big trouble
Posted: 6/22/16 at 2:59pm

I love his style of musical but they always tend to be a little "dark" so I can't imagine that working for this, but I'm excited to see pictures and the design and stuff.


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